Talk:Black Book (film)

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	To-do list for Black Book (film):	edit  · history  · watch  · refresh
more chronological plot rewrite, maybe divide plot into subsections to give it more structure historical basis of the story (black book, characters, Nazi occupation, Suez crisis) casting, why actors were chosen references to current events (members of the resistance called terrorists, Abu Ghraib prison) negative critical response after UK release international release dates international box office results

Contents 1 Fatherland vs Homeland 2 Wow! 3 Behind the story and critics sections 4 GA recommendations 5 Kibbutz 6 Being released in america

[edit] Fatherland vs Homeland

In the section "Production", I changed 'Paul Verhoeven moved to his fatherland' to Paul Verhoeven moved to his homeland. This therm is more appropriate. The article Fatherland) explains why; Drawing from the Nazis' usage of the term "Vaterland", the direct English translation "fatherland" featured in news reports associated with Nazi Germany and in domestic anti-Nazi propaganda during World War II. As a result, the English word is now associated with the Nazi government of Germany (unlike in Germany itself, where the word means simply "homeland") The word is not used often in post-World War II English unless one wishes to invoke the Nazis, or one is translating literally from a foreign language where that language's equivalent of "fatherland" does not bear Nazi connotations.217.136.184.180 05:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wow!

Add some fair use rationales and get this peer reviewed. This article looks like it should easily pass the Good Article review process.--Supernumerary 02:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I added the fair use rationales, hopefully they suffice. - Ilse@ 20:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

They're mostly there, but they're missing the "lower quality" and "does not impede ability to market" clauses. See here for a summary, and here for a poster example, and here for a screenshot.--Supernumerary 22:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I changed the texts and I believe the clauses mentioned are now included in the rationales. - Ilse@ 22:37, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Behind the story and critics sections

I think that the sections are fine they way they are now. One gives the views of the makers and the other the views of the critics. These are two different but important viewpoints, which justifies any overlap. On a side note, I would suggest changing "Behind the story" to "Origins" and making it the first subsection of production.--Supernumerary 18:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA recommendations

Good article certainly, but I would recommend that the see also heading be deleted and the link to the soundtrack given a section in the production, because I'd prefer a lead to that article. Wiki-newbie 19:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I added a 'Soundtrack' section. - Ilse@ 00:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Please remove the cast names from the plot summary. Wiki-newbie 20:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I would like to refer to the style guidelines of the WikiProject Films. These guidelines say actor names should be included between parentheses in the premise of the plot section. - Ilse@ 21:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I feel it is redundant to write who's who twice. Wiki-newbie 16:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Some people even want the names in a third time, see Peer review/Black Book (film)#Plot. I think we can agree on the redundancy of that... - Ilse@ 17:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Any other recommendations? - Ilse@ 17:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

No, you have passed. Wiki-newbie 20:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kibbutz

Question - having seen the movie, I was wondering if anyone knew where the kibbutz is supposed to be in Israel? It looks like its by the lake of Galilee, but wouldn't that be too far away from the fighting of the Suez crisis to be affected? Maybe someone can help - thanks!

[edit] Being released in america

The movie is going to be released in america on april 4 2007 according to boxofficemojo.com shouldn't this be in the article —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.25.182.213 (talk) 14:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

The release date April 6 is mentioned in the infobox. - Ilse@ 13:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)