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[edit] anattā, the absence of ego-centeredness

I thought that anatta is the absence of ego, not "absense of ego-centeredness" as given in this article. I have heard people, especially Western people, who would like there to be a nice, common sense, not-self-contradictory-to-logical-thought Buddhism, describe Buddhist enlightment as freedom from self-centeredness (i.e. "nice"). But as far as I am aware, the Buddha teaches the opposite of Descartes and is irreconcilable with reverance for the liars paradox; the Buddha teaches "I am not" - or at least, I (and ego and atta) are but names or signs signifying nothing (c.f Questions of King Milinda). Buddhism is even scarier than "The Matrix" because when you wake up, you aren't, and that is a main reason why people do not wake up. We are in love with ourselves and do not want to face the ultimate absense. --Timtak 10:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

As far as I understand the Buddhist concept of enlightenment, if you ignore the mythical nonsense, it's about undoing the "first cut" (i.e. distinction between one's self and the outer world) and thus "being one" with the universe. — Ashmodai (talk · contribs) 22:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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