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Talk:Bombings of Heilbronn in World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Talk:Bombings of Heilbronn in World War II

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An entry from Bombings of Heilbronn in World War II appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 20 March 2007.
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Hey, whats wrong with grammar? And anyway, if there is something wrong, why didnt you fix it? Its not finished anyway. ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 10:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Categorising and wikilinking to be done in about 6 hours ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 20:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I've all but finished the article. It definitely needs touching up, but otherwise the main content is complete, as far as I know. If you were interested, you could help by:

  • Adding more technical terminology where appropriate
  • Theres always more wikilinking to be done
  • The see also is lacking in ... see alsos
  • General touching up of grammar, punctuation and/or spelling
  • More factual content if possible

Thank you all for your contributions. ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 07:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A few improvements

Done a bit of fixing/improvement. Still too wordy, the original German must be very verbose. Also, POV must be watched. Not a single reference to any of the German atrocities - Rotterdam, Warsaw, London, Coventry, & many others, which preceded the Allies retaliating. GrahamBould 08:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I have added another section called "prior conflicts", to address concerns about Point of View. It attempts to give an idea of POV in the most encyclopedic way that I could, but I think it could still be made more proffessional perhaps. Is there anything more to add on that topic?
Well, if you could direct me to the articles where I can gather information about these prior attacks, then I would be all to happy to create an entire section about it. I think this article could receive a GA status if we work hard at it. The topic is obviously worthy of a good rating. Anyway, if you could also point out some occurances of this 'wordiness' I can also fix this up, for, as you stated, the German article was very difficult to read in parts. ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 19:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
If you need more fact and you are able to understand german, then you should check the linked article from german wikipedia, that has been updated and reviewed recently. The german article also uses pictures from commons.wikimedia.org that you may use in here.--84.164.117.27 19:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terrorism

Your 'see also' choice of Terrorism is going to provoke debate ... Not sure what you meant by 'industrial place' is this a road name, as in Plaß/Plass/Place? If so, the names should be capitalised. Or is it an industrial area? A very interesting read - well done you. 82.32.238.139 00:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Removed. The article 'terrorist' has nothing related to the topic -- it doesn't include any moral discussion of strategic bombing, whether or not it should. If editors want to include in this article the assertion that strategic bombing is a terrorist act or morally equivalent to one, then that should be made explicit in the text rather than indirectly implied by the presence of a link. Willhsmit 02:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for admonishion 82.32.238.139, and thank you for removing bad link. willhsmit ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 05:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
which 'industial place" are you on about? ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 07:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
You wrote it, mate! You can use CTRL-F to search the page. December Raid Aftermath and other information, fourth para: "Much of the population of Heilbronn, the bombing being conducted on a Monday evening, were positioned in or around the city centre, but at the first signs of attack, many fled to a high shelter (General Wever tower) and two other low shelters (at the industrial place and at the Emperor Friedrich place)." There when I edited early this morning but since changed to 'industrial area' The capitalisation of Emperor Freidrich Place still needs doing if it is a proper (street/place) name. I don't have that knowledge. 82.32.238.139 21:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah yeah, I know what your on about. It's all good now; industrial area is right, and emperor place is good in caps. ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 05:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prior Conflicts

I have added another section called "prior conflicts", to address concerns about Point of View. It attempts to give an idea of POV in the most encyclopedic way that I could, but I think it could still be made more proffessional perhaps. Is there anything more to add on that topic?

Ok, I think context is probably a better name. But are you sure of the location of the paragraph? And does anyone think another paragraph, or sub paragraph, might be possible, just to add to the completeness of the article, about other bombings of Germany (and possibly, if someone thinks its a good idea, the Allies), and how they compare or relate to the bombing of Heilbronn?

Also, if anyone knows of any more sources of information, just so we can make this article better, please let me know, and I'd be happy to drain the source of all its info. Cheers, ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 09:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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