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_ _ The removed expression "metal hammer" is ambiguous and in that state added nothing to the article. Is this, paralleling "wooden hammer", a hammer composed of metal (unlike most mallets) or, paralleling "tack hammer", a hammer intended for working metal? Even if that is not known, the phrase's use might have some value if accompanied by information as to who described it as a "metal hammer".
_ _ As to the article as a whole, it appears to be based on a source aimed at readers who fantasize about helping bring criminals to justice, and/or added to WP by such a person. It has a legitimate place here, but the tone is almost seriously unencyclopedic. It needs a lot more work than the little i have given it.
--Jerzyt 16:09 & 17:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
_ _ As to another hammer ref, completely removed, can

The hammer has been described as "mallet-like" in press reports and in some police reports as a "sledge hammer".

serve any purpose beyond feeding voyeurism about violence?
_ _ I started this cleaner version of a 'graph:

On the other hand, the Montgomery County, Maryland Sheriff did file a Freedom of Information Act request with the CIA but received no records. Sheriff Popkin is quoted in the Yale Daily News as saying
The CIA came in and did an investigation. Why would they bother doing that if they didn't know something?[1]

but removed it instead, which has the welcome side effect of obviating the question of what the bizarre language i was modifying means. (I was unjustified in my tenative inference that Popkin is or was the sheriff: the language is consistent with the inference that the reporter is not directly quoting the sheriff, but quoting Popkin, a department employee who claimed to be quoting the sheriff; it is hard to see what else it can mean.)
_ _ But the reason for removing it is that there is no sign here of anything beyond

  1. a FOIA request from someone who AFAWK may have no idea how to make a useful one or what to expect,
  2. an idly suspicious question, voiced under the stimulation of a reporter's inquiry, presumably transcribed by a student journalist
  3. and "On the other", which expresses the editor's PoV, and ostensible original research, to the effect that the other signs constitute "smoke" making a "fire" plausible.

If there is more controversy than that, find it and include it instead.
--Jerzyt 17:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
There probably is no Columba, North Carolina. NC 94 does run thru Columbia, North Carolina, and south from there for about 20 miles.
--Jerzyt 19:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

-- While I am not sure that the sneering, supercilious tone was necessary, I am sure that the edits made it a cleaner and better article. The only argument I would make is that the original sentence ending "... probably, although not definitely, accompanied by a “dark skinned woman”. Is more accurate than "Accordingly (sic) to witnesses, he had the family dog with him on a leash, and was accompanied by a woman described as "dark skinned". A single witness is absolutely sure that a woman was with him ... the police/FBI are not sure and it does not fit the consensus view of the crime – it is worth mentioning because the police put it the way it originally read. (Khan Noonian Singh 19:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC))

---So? Does this article stay in limbo forever? It has been 7 weeks since Jerzy's bombastic but very effective clean-up edit ... Who would make the call that it is ready to lose the “please edit” tag? (Khan Noonian Singh 19:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expected Promotion?

The article states that Bishop was expecting a promotion and that on the date of the murders received word he would not receive it. What is the source for that contention? I cannot find it corroborated anywhere. The same for his alleged use of prescription anti-depressants. Tom Cod 20:25, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Under External Links: The Promotion is mentioned in the Readers Digest summary of the case and the Serax use is included in the US DoJ's write up (1st paragraph under DESCRIPTION) (Khan Noonian Singh 20:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC))

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