Talk:Brig

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.

B This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale.

Additional information:

	This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status: Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar: not checked Supporting materials: not checked To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call: `<!-- 1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points are appropriately cited. -->` `\|B-Class-1=yes/no` `<!-- 2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies. -->` `\|B-Class-2=yes/no` `<!-- 3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. -->` `\|B-Class-3=yes/no` `<!-- 4. It is free from major grammatical errors. -->` `\|B-Class-4=yes/no` `<!-- 5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. -->` `\|B-Class-5=yes/no`
Related task forces (general topics):
	Maritime warfare task force

1 Needs to be reviewed by Military history WikiProject
2 Brig, Switzerland?
3 Must have two square sails to be a brig.
4 On merging
5 Assessment
6 list of brigs

[edit] Needs to be reviewed by Military history WikiProject

I came here off the Wikipedia:Most wanted stubs page, made additions and destubbed the article. I had User:Beland check the work and he removed the stub class rating that Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history had on this talk page and reccommended that I request they classify it. If it has areas that need to be improved or are missing I hope they will list them here after their review is done.--Wowaconia 16:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Assessment was made below--Wowaconia 20:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brig, Switzerland?

Text removed from brigantine:

Brig redirects here, for an alternate use see: Brig, Switzerland

The target article does not exist. Suggest adding

This article is about the sailing vessel. For the town in Switzerland, see Brig, Switzerland.

if and when it does (assuming it's a town). Andrewa 17:17, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The town has a wiki-page moving last suggested formulation to top of article suggeston.--Wowaconia 16:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

There are more articles named brig so went with other uses tag.--Wowaconia 16:35, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Must have two square sails to be a brig.

All the sources I'm seeing are saying that to be a brig both sails must be square not as the current article says "at least one". I think the modern usage takes precedence and its not as modern as you might think because I found a LOC ref to a brig George Washington had and they say that at that time 1774 there was already a common distinction between Brig and Brigantine. I'm going to change this if I find historical usage that indicates that at one point a ship could be a brig with just one square sail I'll note it in a historical perspective segment.--Wowaconia 01:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

This info is all in the segment "Development of the brig".--Wowaconia 18:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On merging

I don't think these articles should be merged, while the brig evolved from the brigantine they had seperate histories after that and to try and weave them together into one article would confuse the reader. When these articles were both small that might have made sense, but I think this article can now stand on its own and perhaps the brigantine article should be cleaned up and expanded.--Wowaconia 18:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Were ships converted between brig and brigantine rigs with any frequency? If not, I don't think a merge is called for. -- Akb4 20:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment

Just looking over the article, I would say expanding the introduction and adding an infobox should be enough to move this up to "B class" status. For now I still think it is a "Start-class". Cheers--Looper5920 19:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

These were added and Looper5920 upgraded class to B.--Wowaconia 20:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] list of brigs

I alphabetized the list of brigs. Removing the Mary Celeste, as the painting on her page makes clear that she was a brigantine. Chrono would likely be a better order than alpha, but I wasn't quite up for that. -- Akb4 20:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org../../../b/r/i/Talk%7EBrig_a32d.html"

Categories: B-Class military history articles needing review | B-Class maritime warfare articles | Maritime warfare task force articles | B-Class military history articles