Talk:Brigid
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[edit] Wiccan triple goddess
I removed: "Brigid was known by many names, but all the different avatars were triple goddesses, with a maiden, mother, and crone aspect."
This is incorrect. The idea of triple goddesses being a maiden, mother and crone is not found in the Celtic cultures where they were sisters, as the Brighids are seen, or mothers (as in the Dea Matronae, Divine Mothers). The idea was actually invented by Robert Graves and it has been incorrectly projected onto triple goddess figures existing prior.
Were the Brighids really three sisters, or were they simply one goddess with three titles or aspects? The fact that they are all called Brighid makes it seem to me that they are a single, three-part entity. Celsiana 02:26, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Berecyntia
I have not found any evidence for such a goddess in Gaul. The name does notseem Gaulish. I did find a reference to an eponymous deity of Mount Berecyntos in Phrygia (hardly Gaulish), a passing mention in Bacon [1] and something in Ovid Berecynthia Aeneae classem in Nymphas transformat. Nine of which gives me any confidence in the existence of such a Gaulish deity. If someone could please supply a citation? --Nantonos 21:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Can't supply a citation, but can supply a guess. Might somebody have found this Phrygian placename and hazarded a Galatian etymology for it? (Cart before the horse, if that's the case...) QuartierLatin1968 Image:Flag of Anarcho syndicalism.svg 16:18, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Self-References
Why are there links on the pages that lead to redirect pages back to the article itself? Either the links are completely unnessecary, and should be removed, or the redirects need to be developed into at least stubs. I'm referring specifically to the links to what are basically alternate names for Brigit herself. The redirects don't need to be deleted in any case, since other pages might be using them, but having links off the page that simply dump you right back where you started is rather pointless, in my opinion. Moonsword 10:30, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mythological literature?
Are there any attestations of Brigid in Irish mythological literature? I've searched high and low, but I haven't yet been able to find one. (Boand yes, but Brigit no.) QuartierLatin1968 21:51, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- I've answered my own question on this one – if there are other attestations, please add them! QuartierLatin1968
21:42, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Contradiction
I want to dispute this statement:
- Since writing first came to Ireland in the wake of Christianity, evidence for a pagan goddess Brigid or Brig must derive from inscriptions; however, none of the inscriptions identifying Brigid have been found in Ireland.
Inscriptions involve writing, so the entire premise of this argument is nonsensical. I'm also not convinced that the statement's factually right about writing first coming to Ireland "in the wake of" Christianity, since at the time that Ogam first started being used, Christianity was only beginning to gain strength in Ireland. Furthermore, are there any inscriptions "identifying Brigid" as such? Or did the contributor mean Brigantia? And finally, it's not true that evidence "must derive" from inscriptions: When you have a number of relatively early literary sources that assert that Brigit had been a goddess and giving her a place within the family of the Túatha Dé Danand, that's evidence. Not proof, perhaps, but certainly evidence. QuartierLatin1968 22:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Copyvio
I'm (somewhat regretfully) reverting the contributions made by an anonymous contributor because they copy verbatim the material on http://www.aztriad.com/brigit.html. The latter site does not specify that its material is under a free license. I say 'regretfully', because there would have been good potential to wikify, {{fact}}-check, and edit a good part of that material. Cheers, QuartierLatin1968 16:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)