Talk:Brotherhood of Mutants
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[edit] The L Word
Mystique and Destiny WERE lovers; they were always written as lovers by Chris Claremont. It was just never outright stated that they were lovers because Jim Shooter had a "no gay characters" policy at Marvel during the 1980s.
Only in the most recent years, in X-Men Forever and Xtreme X-Men, has Marvel relaxed enough to let writers outright state what was quite apparent subtextwise, that Destiny and Mystique were lovers. [[BakerBaker]
[edit] Current status
The current Superteambox lists status as active but that there are no members. That seems a pseudo-contradiction at best.
BakerBaker: There are no active incarnation of the Brotherhood at the moment, hence the lack of members.
[edit] Ultimate Brotherhood
What about a listing of the members of the Ultimate universe version, as well some more details about them?
Do we need this? It just clutters up the page.--DrBat 01:46, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Known members
[edit] Original lineup
- Magneto. Founder in Uncanny X-Men #4 (March, 1964).
- Astra. Retconned as the first recruit. Resigned prior to their first mission.
- Toad (served in several later incarnations). Second recruit in Uncanny X-Men #4 (March, 1964).
- Quicksilver. Third recruit, alongside the Scarlet Witch, in Uncanny X-Men #4 (March, 1964).
- Scarlet Witch. Fourth recruit, alongside Quicksilver, in Uncanny X-Men #4 (March, 1964).
- Mastermind. First seen as a member in Uncanny X-Men #4 (March, 1964).
- Blob (served in several later incarnations). Joined in Amazing Adventures vol. 2 #12 (May, 1972).
- Unus the Untouchable. Joined in Amazing Adventures vol. 2 #12 (May, 1972).
- Lorelei. Joined in Defenders vol. 1 #15 (September, 1974).
- Vanisher. Associate member in Champions of Los Angeles #17 (January, 1978).
[edit] Second lineup
Founded by Magneto in Captain America Annual #4 (1977). Later known as the Mutant Force and the Resistants.
- Burner (Byron Calley). Later changed codename to "Crucible".
- Lifter (Ned Lathrop). Later chanded codename to "Meteorite".
- Peeper (Peter Quinn). Later changed codename to "Occult".
- Shocker (Randall Darby). Later changed codename to "Paralyzer".
- Slither (Aaron Salomon).
- Quill. Joined in Captain America vol. 1 #343 (July, 1988).
- Mist Mistress. Joined in Captain America vol. 1 #346 (October, 1988).
- Mentallo (Marvin Flumm). Joined in Captain America vol. 1 #346 (October, 1988) under the codename "Think Tank".
- Rust. Joined in Captain America vol. 1 #350 (February, 1989).
[edit] Third lineup
First appeared in Uncanny X-Men #141 (January, 1981). Later became known as Freedom Force). Included the veteran member Blob.
- Mystique (served in several later incarnations). Co-founder and leader.
- Destiny. Co-founder and second-in-command.
- Avalanche (served in several later incarnations). Co-founder.
- Pyro. Co-founder.
- Rogue. Joined in Avengers Annual #10 (1981). Later defected to the X-Men.
- Spiral (first non mutant member of Freedom Force). Joined in Uncanny X-Men #199 (November, 1985).
- Spider-Woman (second non mutant member of Freedom Force). Joined in Uncanny X-Men #206 (June, 1986).
- Crimson Commando (third non mutant member of Freedom Force). Joined in Uncanny X-Men #223 (November, 1987).
- Stonewall (fourth non mutant member of Freedom Force). Joined in Uncanny X-Men #223 (November, 1987).
- Super Sabre (fifth non mutant member of Freedom Force). Joined in Uncanny X-Men #223 (November, 1987).
[edit] Fourth lineup
Founded in X-Force #5 (December, 1991. Included veteran members Blob, Pyro and Toad.
[edit] Fifth lineup
Founded in X-Factor #112 (July, 1995).
- Dark Beast. Founder and leader.
- Fatale. First recruit.
- Random. Associate member in X-Factor #114 (September, 1995).
- Havok. Defector from X-Factor. Joined in X-Factor #125 (August, 1996). Final leader of this incarnation.
- Ever. Joined in Uncanny X-Men #339 (December, 1996).
- X-Man. Joined in X-Man #26 (April, 1997).
- Aurora. Joined in X-Man #27 (May, 1997).
[edit] Sixth lineup
Founded in Uncanny X-Men #363 (January, 1999). Included veteran members Blob and Toad. Following the departure of Professor X they became mercenaries and were hired by Mystique.
- Professor X. Founder and first leader of this incarnation.
- Mimic. Co-founder.
- Post. Co-founder.
[edit] Seventh lineup
Founded in X-Men #106 (November, 2000). Included veteran members Avalanche, Blob, Mystique, Post and Toad.
- Crimson Commando II. A female successor to the original. (Chris Claremont forgot to name her in the issue but did so in an interview). Co-founder.
- Sabre. A successor to former member Super Sabre. Co-founder.
- Sabretooth. Joined in Uncanny X-Men #388 (December, 2000; also member of ninth line-up).
- Mastermind II. A daughter of the original. Joined in Cable #87 (January, 2001).
[edit] Eighth lineup
Founded in New X-Men vol. 1 #146 (October, 2003). Included the veteran member Toad.
- Magneto. Co-founder and leader; later retconned as being Xorn
- Basilisk VI.
- Beak. Co-founder.
- Ernst. Co-founder.
- Esme of the Stepford Cuckoos. Co-founder.
- Martha Johansson. Co-founder.
- Angel Salvatore. Co-founder.
[edit] Ninth lineup
Founded in X-Men #161 (November, 2004). Included veteran members Avalanche and Sabretooth.
- Exodus. Leader and co-founder of this group.
- Black Tom Cassidy. Co-founder.
- Juggernaut (mole working for X-Men). Co-founder.
- Mammomax. Co-founder.
- Nocturne (mole working for X-Men). Co-founder.
[edit] Suggest merge of List of Brotherhood of Mutants members into Brotherhood of Evil Mutants
Suggest merge of List of Brotherhood of Mutants members into Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The main article is much better than the list article, which is just a table. --John Nagle 01:45, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] how do i nominate this article as a good one?
I was very impressed by the information available in this article. How can I nominate it as a good article? --Mr Vain 19:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- I decided not to nominate this article after all because I noticed that in the manual of style (writing about fiction) WP:WAF, it says that fiction needs verifiable 3rd party citations. A large portion of the article does rely on the issues in question as citation and I don't see any citation of other works in the article itself. I really do enjoy this article, but I just don't think it would be accepted as a good article per wikipedia guidelines. Just thought you would want to know why I didn't nominate it. --Mr Vain 15:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Name
I like the fact that this article goes on to mention that many authors are trying to move the Brotherhood's name away from having the word evil in it because the members don't see themselves as evil. Perhaps it should mention that even Stan Lee regrets the fact that he named them with evil, and goes on to say that to state that even he can make a mistake. This was contained in a limited edition comic that came with certain editions of X-men: The Last Stand.
[edit] The Brotherhood
How about collecting up all the minor characters from The Brotherhood limited series and putting them all together in one article? It seems like a waste to have each one or two sentence summary on its own page. Noclevername 01:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
