Category talk:California geography stubs

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[edit] CA-geo-stub sub-types proposed

There's a discussion here about how best to (further) split up the Cat:California geography stubs. Ideally, we'd do this by generally-recognised regions consisting of a readily-identifiable list of whole counties, such that there's at least 60 existing stubs in each (but not so many as to mean we're likely to be doing the same thing again before too long). Comments welcome. Alai 00:41, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The discussion is now archived at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/September 2006 completed --Hjal 17:57, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] California Central Coast & a northern region are still needed

In the discussion of the proposal, User:BlankVerse said:

The list of suggested regions is missing the California Central Coast: Santa Cruz County, California, Monterey County, California, San Luis Obispo County, California and Santa Barbara County, California. BlankVerse 09:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The current list of regions includes 49 county templates. There are 58 counties in California. (More than we really need, true, but what can ya do?) In addition to the four Central Coast counties BV listed, the five others that are not included in any of the regions are San Benito County, which is sometimes included in the San Francisco Bay Area when Santa Cruz County is, and four of the most northern counties: Trinity, Siskiyou, Lassen, and Modoc.

San Benito could be grouped with the Central Coast counties, even though it is inland. It is a member of the Association of Monterey Bay Area Governments ans was originally part of Monterey County.

Shasta Cascade could be the category for the northern counties. The article already exists and it includes all four counties in the definitiion. It also includes Shasta, Tehama, and Butte Counties, which we have in the Sacramento Valley category, and Plumas County, which we have in the Sierra Nevada category. If we wanted to leave the other categories alone, we could group the four left-over counties into the Klamath-Cascade region, although that's pretty artificial. We could also include several counties in multiple regions: Solano in both the Bay Area and Sacramento Valley; Placer and El Dorado in both SV and Sierra Nevada; Plumas in SN and Shasta Cascade; Santa Cruz in both SF and Central Coast; and so on.--Hjal 19:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I should have paid more attention to the discussion. I just figured every county would get a stub when I pointed out that some were missing. I just found out myself, when I tried to add {{SiskiyouCountyCA-geo-stub}} to an unincorporated city in that county, that it didn't exist.

In some ways it's good that the WP:WSS is pretty anal about their bailiwick, because otherwise you'd have all sorts of strange and unnecessary stubs created, but it means that we'll need to go back to WP:WSS/P to propose creating the rest of the Calif. county stubs, with the appropriate regional categories. We will also have to express the proper mea culpas for the newbie who recently created {{SantaBarbaraCountyCA-geo-stub}}.

For the Oregon border counties, I'd suggest creating the Shasta Cascade category, and then moving one or more of the counties that are currently in the Sacramento Valley category. Multiple geographic categories can be good for normal articles and categories, but not that good for stubs IMHO. ^BlankVerse 16:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC)