Talk:Catalan constitutions
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[edit] Prescribed
"The first compilation was prescribed by Ferran I…" Prescribed is an awkward word here, it roughly means recommended as the solution to something. What are you intending to convey? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:38, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Titles
How would one translate these titles? Is this correct?
- Constitucions i altres drets de Catalunya ("Constitutions and other rights of Catalonia" or is it "Constitutions (and other) rights of Catalonia"?)
- Pragmàtiques i altres drets de Catalunya ("Pragmatics and other rights of Catalonia" or is it "Pragmatic (and other) rights of Catalonia"?)
- Constitucions i altres drets de Catalunya superflus, contraris i corregits ("Constitutions and other supplementary, contrary, and corrected rights of Catalonia"?)
I may have done poorly on this; I believe I have correctly understood each word individually, but not necessarily the grammar. If someone is not sure how to translate into English, but can translate into Spanish, I'm sure I can go from there.
Also, a question on Pragmàtiques i altres drets de Catalunya: Google does not find this string, or any obvious close variant, anywhere on the Internet. Since important documents in Catalan history are usually well-covered on the Web, and rare books even more so, that seems very surprising. Is this possibly better known by another name? -- Jmabel | Talk 07:01, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
- Your translatons are very correct. The only title word you seem have not understood is superlus which means non relevant. The reason of not being a lot of internet documents on this point is a whole state which its corresponding power interested in making silence about its own consitution origins being not clear, and really still today very discussed. This is the reason I have taken the time to scan the original documents and uploaded them. I have just now added an external link to the Catalan Government website where you can also check this a real historic document. Several wars have been necessary to silence the catalan rigths. This is exactly the importance of this article being in a free work like this, the wikipedia. I have only a but to your nice rewriting: I'm sorry but saying Spain in the year 1716 this is in fact partisan, wrong and not neutral, as in this year Catalonia had still its own Constitution. All spanish consitutions after this only dear to speak about Spanish Reigns (in plural) which included the Catalan Reign, althougth often refered as Reign of Aragon, only to avoid the word Catalonia. In fact the first spanish constitution that speaks about Spain is the one of 1978! Pls read the article Catalan Grand Company and you may understand better the reason: envy.--Friviere 19:02, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] S.C.R.M.
What's "S.C.R.M."? -- Jmabel | Talk 00:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Su Cristian y Real Majestat (His Christian and Royal Majesty)? Physchim62 (talk) 10:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Introduction
This article needs an introduction, before the first heading. --Pelago 14:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
