Talk:Cheryl Kernot

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Why are we losing the photograph? We've has been through this before. We can use the parliament photographs legally and the only impediments are zealots and puritans. Why can't one of these wikiwonks go and hunt up Cheryl and take a picture of her before demanding that we get rid of the only one we can legally use? Sheesh. --Pete 02:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

I dispute the neutrality of this article: much of it seems to be a character attack on the subject, and there doesn't seem to be any references to back up the claims. Recurring dreams 05:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Please dispute whatever you like. But what bit exactly are you disputing? The references? The facts? Lao Wai 14:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

As the author of recent potentially controversial material, I was partly acting in response to extant copy which one-sidedly idealised Kernot and avoided reference to her overwhelmingly negative and destructive influence on the Australian Democrats, of which I was an active member and national executive representative between 1980 and 1993. There is nothing in my contribution which has not been widely reported in Australian news media or which cannot be sourced to documents including Senate Hansard. The spectacular demise of the Australian Democrats since 1990 is the inevitable consequence of very obvious and public leadership failures on the part of Cheryl Kernot and Meg Lees, both of whom demonstrably pursued inappropriate connections with the major political parties. Aeronian 04:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of the truth of your claims (and the claims already existing), Wikipedia is an encyclopædia with a strict policy of maintaining a neutral point of view. The threshold for inclusion is verifiability, not truth. We cannot accept personal criticisms; rather, such remarks must be attributed to reliable published sources and presented in a neutral tone.--cj | talk 05:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, cj, I appreciate the cited rules, also the special difficulties with biography of living persons, and will therefore gladly accept responsible editing of unverifiable material. This must apply equally to both "negative" and "positive" statements. I will rigorously support future contributions with verifying documentation and will expect to see the same standard adopted by all contributors. Aeronian 06:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I've removed most instances of bias and unsourced claims.--cj | talk 06:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)