Talk:Chinatowns in North America
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[edit] Re: Houston's Chinatown
The writer of the entry on Chinatown, Houston said that it has been an area of settlement for Chinese Mexicans. I assume this is a more recent population of Chinese Mexicans that has settled since the 1970's or so. Historically, Chinese Mexicans preferred El Paso and San Antonio.
I'd like to know where the writer got his/her info on the Chinese Mexicans settling in the Bellaire Chinatown area. I'd like to know how many Chinese Mexicans the writer believes live in the Bellaire Chinatown of Houston. And I'd like to know when they settled and what they do.
I am the editor of a Univ of Texas book on the history of Asian Americans in Texas, and I found your Wikipedia website very useful for this neighborhood-related information.
Thank you for helping me.
Oh, and I have not done any studies on the sizes of Chinatowns, but I do know that the Chinatown along Bellaire in Houston is humongous. It stretches from close to Highway 59 along Bellaire to getting close to Highway 6. And of course it is not limited to stores and homes on Bellaire itself. It is likely larger than both the NYC and SF Chinatowns in geographic size, combined. Also, nearby Fort Bend Coutny suburbs are also very Chinese (25% or so).
Irwin Tang
Don't depend on Wikipedia too much for information. It's best to use peer-reviewed journal articles. Everyone seems to have their idiosyncracies here.
[edit] Needs pictures
This site could use some illustrations and pictures of the suburban Chinatowns. If I were to be credited, I'd go out to some of new Chinatowns described and shoot some pictures but I'm not entirely altruistic due to this being a "copyleft" site and all.
[edit] This article is 92KB, and should be split
As this article is 92KB, quite considerably larger than the 32KB recommended, I suggest splitting off the specific surveys of 'Chinatowns in the United States' and 'Chinatowns in Canada' and concentrating the article as an analysis of patterns in North American Chinatowns.--Pharos 08:12, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Alternatively, we could keep the US and Canada surveys on this page to be consistent with the other articles in the series, and move the other sections to Chinatown patterns in North America.--Pharos 10:00, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Go for it!
I've intentionally included several POVs, spelling and grammatical errors and also left information vague to see if this article (and the main Chinatown article) ever gets much attention beyond the delete-happy edits. Probably not. Yes, this article does need some splitting. But then, since it's not a high priority for me, I'll let someone else do it.
- OK, the article has been split.--Pharos 10:26, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Vancouver?
"Vancouver's Chinatown is the largest in British Columbia and the second largest in North America, after Toronto's"
Should this be "in Canada"? Kinst 02:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I believe Vancouver's C/town is 2nd largest (in N/Am), after S/Fran. (?) Hu Gadarn 04:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Toronto always thinks it's bigger and better than nearly anywhere on a lot of counts; but Vancouver's Chinatown/Chinese subculture is larger, and always has been; Toronto's old Chinatown was fairly small, but even with the five new ones it's still nowhere near as complex a Chinese cultural/commercial colony as is Greater Vancouver.Skookum1 06:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] This was taken out by someone, but...
- There have been redevelopment proposals to turn Portland's Chinatown into an exotic ethnic playground for non-Chinese revelers, which will possibly further dilute the Chinese character of neighborhood.
That comment, and others like it on the Chinatown patterns page, and the main Chinatown page and on Talk:Chinese Canadian, expressing discontent with somewhere being "no longer exclusively Chinese" or "not Chinese enough" strike me as incredibly biased and a sign of the very prejudices others have been so busy denouncing me as a racist for pointing it. But consider this paraphrase:
- There have been redevelopment proposals to turn "Neighbourhood x" into an exotic ethnic playground for non-white revelers, which will possibly further dilute the white character of the neighbourhood.
I suggest a lot of people posting to this page undertake what the Maoists so cleverly called "self-examination" and "self-criticism" concerning their biases and prejudices towards non-Chinese, and the idea that building and expanding Chinatowns is something worth "embracing"; the creation of racially-based communities and commercial enclaves may be appealing in your culture; in ours, it is anathema; especially if "we" were to try and do it for our own particular ex-imperialist/ex-colonialist bloodlines/culture. A neighbourhood and commercial district that sought to be "more white" and which resents "dilution" by non-whites....well, we know what the self-righteous would say about that, don't we?Skookum1 00:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge proposal
I started the discussion on Talk:Chinatown patterns in North America. See also Talk:List of Canadian cities with large Chinese populations for other comments.Skookum1 08:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree. This page is 81 kilobytes long, and articles are supposed to be 32, as here:
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The page should be merged as it is too long.PЄ|>ρ3® 19:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Um, pages that are too long are supposed to be split, not merged. This article has already been split once; it might well deserve to be split again, but I'm not sure. Anyway, let's keep the discussion in one palace, at Talk:Chinatown patterns in North America. Thanks.--Pharos 03:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What about Annadale?
If you do rightly mention Rockville as one of the suburban Chinatowns 20 miles out of DC, we should mention Annadale which is located within the beltway. This would be a major convenience for tourists in DC that want a 'real' Chinatown. It is located West of Exit 3 on I-395. You can do some research on it.65.206.122.30 13:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No stereotypes, please!
i noticed the article failed to mention how residents in suburban Chinatowns live like normal Americans in large suburban houses. What typically defines the Chinese community who live in a concentration is a supermarket, a few stores, and a cultural center.65.206.122.30 13:10, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
