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[edit] British or American?

Is Guest really a "British actor"? Seems to me he's American.

More information on his childhood and upbringing would be useful. Bastie 12:46, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
According to IMDB, he was born in New York, to a British father (obviously) and an American mother. He appears to have grown up and gone to school in New York. I think it would be appropriate to either call him American or Anglo-American. john k 17:20, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Does he have dual citizenship?
  • Yes he has dual citizenship (otherwise he would not be able to hold his hereditary position). 86.17.247.135 01:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
You don't need citizenship to hold the title but you do to take your seat which he did on the 21st July 1997 Alci12 18:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can adopted kids inherit a peerage?

The article notes that his children with Jamie Lee Curtis are both adopted. Can adopted children in the UK inherit a peerage? Isn't the verbiage in the letter patent usually something like "heirs of the body"? --Jfruh 15:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

No and yes. The heir presumptive to the Barony is his brother, The Honourable Nicholas Haden-Guest. Proteus (Talk) 23:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
No, but they can carry the courtesy title "The Honorable", via a 2004 Royal Warrant addressing the styles of a peer's adopted children.

[edit] US citizenship?

Wow, I love Guest's comedy stuff, but this article has made me think of all sorts of political stuff instead ... since he was born in NY, he was obviously a US citizen ... but does serving in a foreign legislature (as he did when he attended the House of Lords) or, for that matter, just accepting a foreign peerage entail giving up US citizenship? --Jfruh 16:00, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

No (although it's an urban legend that it does). Proteus (Talk) 23:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
State Department answer. Basically, they give natural-born citizens the benefit of the doubt. He would have to intend to relinquish his citizenship by taking an oath of office to a foreign power. --Dhartung | Talk 12:01, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

If he was a US citizen, he wouldn't be allowed to sit in the HoL anyway, as far as I know. I don't know what the rules are for those holding dual nationality. Badgerpatrol 14:11, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Silly article

This article is as silly as Guest's comedy--some one re-do the whole thing please unsigned by 65.1.237.28

What's wrong with it? Looks fine to me. sjorford #£@%&$?! 14:08, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

theres nothing here on his work preSpinal Tap I know he did lots of stuff for the National Lampoon in the early 70s stage shows, record albums, the radio show

[edit] FYC not a mocumentary?

If that's true, as it's article says, the Guest movies template should be modified to say 'works by CG' or something, not "mockumentaries by CG". BabuBhatt 22:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

It certainly isn't a mockumentary; I just changed it.C Ruth 19:01, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move

Meanwhile a stub exists about Christopher Guest, Baron Guest, so this article should be moved to make place for a disambiguation page, however I'm unsure what the appropriate aim could be. I think there are three possibilities:

  • to include his peerage as Christopher Guest, 5th Baron Haden-Guest
  • to include his job as Christopher Guest (actor)
  • or to include his birthname as Christopher Haden-Guest.

I would prefer the first solution, since he hasn't declined his barony and we have added a title several times to article names of people, who also have not used it. Though I would not have any problem with the second solution either. Any suggestions? ~~ Phoe talk 09:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC) ~~

Well he took his seat in the HoL in '97, I would have thought it should be Christopher Haden-Guest, 5th Baron Haden-Guest. Alci12 18:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
And Bertrand Russell took his seat in 1931. The case is the same; Guest chooses not to be known by his title, and is de facto known by the name he used before succeeding. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus to move Part Deux 10:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Christopher Guest → Christopher Guest (actor) — To make place for a disambiguation page; suggestions for other possibilities are welcome. Phoe 16:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add  # '''Support'''  or  # '''Oppose'''  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

[edit] Survey - in support of the move

[edit] Survey - in opposition to the move

  1. Oppose as noted below - a simple dab sentance at the top is enough. Few will be looking for the other anyway. -- Beardo 08:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Oppose; the articles are disambiguated as they stand, and few people will be looking for the Lord of Appeal under Christopher Guest; for those who do, we should have a dablink. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Why can't we just put a link to Lord Guest at the top? This isn't really a suitable candidate for disambiguation, as there aren't two articles wanting the same title (we wouldn't put Lord Guest here even if Lord Haden-Guest didn't exist). Proteus (Talk) 18:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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