Talk:Christopher Jon Bjerknes

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Contents 1 New version 2 intro? 3 Broken link(s) 4 This article contradicts itself 5 jewishracism.com

[edit] New version

I thought the original version was a bit disorganized and didn't link to enough WP articles, external websites, or to printed references, so I rewrote it.

I believe the best way to deal with controversial topics in the WP is provide short WP:NPOV summaries of the most relevant points and then offer the reader a short list of links to the most relevant pro and con websites (and books, if any). I hope that participants in the controversy for which Bjerknes is apparently notable by WP standards will respect my request to confine their detailed arguments to their own websites. TIA ---CH 04:19, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] intro?

It states: " Christopher Jon Bjerknes (born 1965) is an amateur historian of science who claims that Albert Einstein plagiarized some of his best known contributions to theoretical physics."

Is that claim his major achievement in life? And doesn't he have a professional career? It looks like this article should be tagged as "stub". Harald88 15:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

There's good reason to tag it as "stub". The details we know about him are almost incidental to his books and writings, not verified by some source who has investigated the matter. I'd break the intro sentence after "science" and keep the Einstein stuff on a separate line - while I haven't seen him achieve anything more noteworthy, it doesn't look smooth to me. But that's a matter of taste. --Alvestrand 15:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, let's add the "stub" sign so as to attract more information about him. Harald88 15:58, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken link(s)

This one (at the bottom part) doesn't work as of today http://wnwiki.ath.cx/index.php/ Knutars 22:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Aww, what a shame. --Fastfission 22:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This article contradicts itself

This article cites Bjerkness as claiming that "Racist Zionists" perpetuated the anti-Semitism of the Holocaust" but it also claims that Bjerkness is a "Holocaust denier".

Obviously, one of the two claims has to go, as they contradict each other.

and I now see that the instruction at the top of this page obliges us to remove the latter claim, at least for the time being. Harald88 22:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

According to Holocaust denial, he should probably be classified as a Holocaust revisionist. --Alvestrand 06:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

That may be correct. BTW, I wonder why people want to classify people? Harald88 07:42, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Saying that the Holocaust was not a persecution of the Jews led by Nazis, but was instead led by Jews, is a denial of what the word "Holocaust" normally signifies. It certainly falls into the loose collection of beliefs known as Holocaust denial. Holocaust denial is not only limited to those who deny that the Holocaust occurred. "Most Holocaust denial implies, or openly states, that the Holocaust is the result of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy created to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples." A slight variant on the usual, but not much. --Fastfission 13:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I did not see him claim that the Holocaust was a conspiracy and it would be original research if we (instead of sources) would claim that he falls under such a classification; in the case of pages about living persons the WP:NOR policy should be rigidly enforced in view of the warning on top of this page. Perhaps someone can quote Bjerkness or another reliable source for this issue as stating that he is a "Holocaust Denier"? Harald88 20:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] jewishracism.com

Seems he is the author of that website too. As its existance revolve around his articles. I have taken a look at one of his article there. [1] Maybe this can answer regarding the percieved contradiction. The article accuse Zionist Jews to be reponsable of the fate of the European Jews, placing Hitler to power so that they could 'have' Palestine. He also in that work accuse those same circle of 'Jews' to have ordered the extermination of the Armenians in World War I to destroy the Ottoman Empire so that they could get Palestine. He seems to take the thesis of self genocide, a self-inflicted tragedy. Fad (ix) 18:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)