User talk:Ckamaeleon

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I typically reply on YOUR talk page, since I don't know if you're a big watch-list person or not.

• Archive 1 (Addressed before 1 May 2006) - My First Archive, I feel loved.
• Archive 2 (Currently empty, but nice to have around)

Contents 1 New Stuff Goes at the Bottom! 2 Columbine Changes 3 Commons Editing 4 Spoken article in progress template 5 Spoken icon silly business 6 Salut! 7 Image:Wikimic.png 8 Spoken article

[edit] New Stuff Goes at the Bottom!

Please leave your New Contributions at the bottom (unless you are following up, then put it at the bottom of the appropriate section). This keeps everything numbered in decending order. If it sweetens the deal, I'll make an an archive so that you don't have to scroll so much. Ckamaeleon ((T)) 17:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Columbine SpokenWiki Progress-Meter==

(back to Main Project Page)

There is now a sandbox where I'm sorting through info for the second part's recording.

   * Title -short
   * Intro  -short
   * 1 Warning signs -short
         o 1.1 Crime, punishment, and retaliation -short
         o 1.2 Journals and videos  -short
   * 2 Firearms -short 

--proposed break-- pre-editing time: 13:48; final time: 9:36 --FINISHED and UPLOADED!--

   * 3 April 20, 1999: shooting at Columbine High -short 
         o 3.1 The shooting begins -long 
         o (InfoBox: Injuries and deaths in initial incident) 
         o 3.2 The library massacre -long 
         o (InfoBox: Injuries and deaths in the library)
         o 3.3 Suicide of the shooters -short
         o (InfoBox: Deaths of the shooters) 

--proposed break-- pre-editing time: 37:45

         o 3.4 The shooting ends -short
   * 4 Aftermath  -short
         o 4.1 Third shooter theory  -short
   * 5 Aftershock and the search for reasons  -long

--NEW proposed break-- pre-editing time: ??:???

   * 6 Long-term impact  -short
   * 7 Cultural impact  -short
   * 8 Consult also  -short (am with the camp that uses "consult" as less awkward term for recordings)
   (* 9 Notes  -long) proposed omission
   * 10 References -short
   * 11 External links -med
   * Recording date + GFDL info -short 

--proposed break-- pre-editing time: ??:??;

• TOTAL runtime before editing : 97:03 (mm:ss)

ALL RECORDED! .. but not all edited or processed, yet. Found several things to edit, but will add them later this week to the article talk page; nothing huge.

POST-PRODUCTION:-

1. Discuss the end product: number of parts, how to intro/outro each
2. Edit out retakes and extra silence
3. Re-record any mis-pronounced names.
4. Finish all cutting/pasting
5. Process all (normalize, compress, remove ambient noise), then downmix and save
6. UPLOAD, add file info to Wiki
7. Place templates on page.

Estimated finish date: 20 May. Once back from wikibreak. I've even added it to Evolution under the category "Overdue Obligations"

[edit] Columbine Changes

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I revised the fatal injures of Daniel Rohrbough, both in the table and in the text. It turns out he was shot in the chest, not the head. I wanted to let you know now while you still can re-record (before posting the spoken version); it's no more than a few words, so I'm sure it won't be a big deal (hopefully). Thanks. -- PRueda29 / ^Ptalk29 / ^Pcontribs29 17:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

No prob. Thanks for keeping me in touch w/ the changes, since I'm reading from a printout for this article (to help me mark up the pronunciation) and I won't see changes on the page.Ckamaeleon 17:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to let you know that I recently expanded the paragraph about the exachange with Bernall just a tiny little bit. I needed to clarify that the few students who still say the Bernall exchange took place did not witness the event occur, but rather heard it and that it could've mislead them since an exchange did occur with a surviving student. Well, if you read the paragraph you'll know what I mean. Also, if you possibly can, could you copyedit it? Thanks. -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 03:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

... Don't wanna bug you or anything, but... just checking up. -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 06:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

LOL... yeah I understand about college. It's not as long as they tell you it should be!! ARGH. That's great about the JET Program. I wish I could go to Japan, maybe next year. Sorry about jumping on you... LOL, I guess watchpages do make people groupies. HAH!!! -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 06:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I think that double sentence thing was done by a bot changing the a.m./p.m. format from AM/PM to the current style. -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 15:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

It's shots, plural, Harris shot multiple times below the table, hitting three of the four people there, and killing one of them (dePooter). I will check through the edit history of the article and check to see what bot it was and if the bot is still doing that now. Good luck with the recordings!!! -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 16:05, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

LOL, don't worry about the recording quality, I don't think it should matter very much as long as it suddenly doesn't change mid-sentence. I don't think many people will mind. Hopefully, the article hasn't changed too much since your recording so that you don't have to re-record. I know that since March there's been a few revisions, mostly of grammar and wording, but the generally information has always remained the same. -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 16:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

You can never be too sure though, notice in the article that one bullet injured two people during the massacre... that always shocked me! -- SmthManly / ^ManlyTalk / ^{ManlyContribs} 16:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commons Editing

The English in the First Steps article on the Commons REALLY needs polishing. I can do it. But later. Ckamaeleon ((T)) 21:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoken article in progress template

I'm happy with the changes you've made so far. Actually, I think the date link is quite a good idea. As for the link to the original requester, I don't have a strong opinion. What if there is no original requester, though?

By the way, I'm not doing as much on Spoken Wikipedia (or Wikipedia in general) as I was earlier in the year, partly because of a new job I started a couple of weeks ago, so don't be surprised if I'm quite slow to interact with things happening on Wikipedia. T J McKenzie 06:06, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoken icon silly business

It's an unpleasant fact that there will always be a few editors who feel the need to act in a confrontational and sometimes spiteful manner whenever they encounter anybody who's work doesn't accord with their own views on how things should be done. This is not just my opinion, it's in the history for anyone who cares to look. All you can do is be tolerant and hope they'll eventually realise the damage they do to the Wikipedia ideal of good faith, and how much their actions and words sour the whole Wikipedia experience for many.

Spoken is a small, young project, not without problems, but people have done lots of great work there, and more are coming in. I've had personal experience with people outside of Wikipedia who like what the Spoken project is doing, and, over time, the usefulness of English Wikipedia spoken articles will be more apparent to more people. Until then, we'll only have a small support base of editors, and we may well get clobbered in matters like the current disagreement over article main page aesthetics no matter how informed and logical our arguments are.

I'm not, however, suggesting giving up. I take the long view. The Spoken Wikipedia project is not going away anytime soon, and attempts by some editors to reduce the Wikipedia's usefulness in order to satisfy their own particularly refined sense of aesthetics, whatever their outcome, won't change that. You and others have put up some excellent arguments, and this whole amusing business isn't over yet, but let's not forget why we're involved in this project. :) Good luck with the JET programme, BTW. -- Macropode 09:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Salut!

Je suis de retour! I took a bit of a vacation from WikiPedia (finals in Spring, took a group of high schoolers to France last month) but just thought I'd say hi and let you know I'm going to be a little more active in the future. I just recorded the spoken article for Rosetta Project; the quality is a lot better than my Thomas Pynchon file, which I probably should just re-record one of these days. Anyway, hope all is well wth you! --Chadley99 06:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Wikimic.png

Hi, Jcornelius used your image to create a logotype for the Berlin Speakers Corner, a regular meetup in Berlin to create spoken Wikipedia files. As I try to vectorize the image, I would like to ask for your high definition version of the Wikimic image. Can you send it to me by mail? Just use the address ew_nospam (at) web (dot) de. Thank you very much! --elya 18:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoken article

Hi. I've noticed that you appear to have been working on converting the second, third and fourth parts of the article Columbine High School massacre into a spoken version for over six months now, according to your entry on the In Progress secton of Wikiproject Spoken Wikipedia. If you are no longer working on the article, please either remove yourself from the list, or notify me so I can do so, so other editors will know they can work on the article instead. If you don't reply within a week, I will assume you are no longer working on the article. Cheers, H4cksaw (talk) 21:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)