Talk:Clinker (boat building)
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[edit] Cotter bolts etc
- Some said clench and others said clinch. In my experience, clench is the more usual.
- Cotter bolts have nothing to do with a shipwright or boatbuilder's work. The cotter would work its way out and the whole lot would fall to bits. They were of use where everything stayed still and the same way up: not a description of a boat.
- A rivet is clenched at only one end and neither end of a rivet is used with a washer as both ends of a clench bolt were. Also, a rivet is short in relation to its diameter. A clench bolt might easily be 2 feet long and ½" diameter. (RJP 22:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC))
- The dictionary definition indicates clinch is the accurate, denotative term referred to in this article. Clinch specifically means deforming the end of a rod, whereas clench means holding tightly. I don't deny that some people may have misspelled it in other pages or sources, but I encourage you to improve as you see fit.
- Pin bolts were described in this section when I corrected some grammar, and cotter bolt was used as a synonym for pin bolt on another page, so I added the alternate name. Not to defend the section, it seemed to me the author here thought it expedient to give a quick history of three different types of bolts, maybe to put clinch bolts in perspective (?), and doesn't say pin bolts are used in boat building. Nonetheless, you make some good points and I agree with your comments.
- Rivet was used as a synonym for clinch bolt on another page, so I added that phrase here. Even though a clinch bolt has similarities with a rivet, you've clarified basic distinctions. I encourage you to improve the section as you see fit. --Simian, 2005-10-14, 01:28 Z
[edit] Terminology
There are an awful lot of terms on this page which are neither obvious to the average (i.e. non-nautical) reader, nor linked to helpful references. These include:
- Hog See keelson
- Stem
- Apron
- Deadwoods
- Garboard
- Lands See the introductory paragraph of the article.
- Thwart risings
- Thwart
- Stringer
- Breast hook
- Quarter knee
- Rubbing strake
- Sheer strake
- Crutch plate
- Painter ring
- Stretcher
- Stem band
- Horse
- Shroud plate
- Step
- Toe strap
I'd go through and add a bunch of links (and may do some of them, in fact), but a lot of these are terms which are ambiguous (horse, apron, stem, hog, step especially) and require more research than I have time for at this time. However, since this is a significant form of boatbuilding, it seems that it really should be cleaned up by someone knowledgeable in the field.
Septegram 14:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- I was right. I tried to add a bunch of links, particularly to the non-ambiguous terms, but to little avail. My nautical knowledge is extremely limited, and this article is virtually meaningless to me, filled as it is with technical terms without elaboration. To someone with my level of knowledge of boatbuilding or less, this article will simply be an exercise in frustration.
- Septegram 15:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
