Talk:Clutch (sports)
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[edit] Nomination for deletion
Yep, this is pretty much why I hate Wikipedia... - Goo Paine 21:15, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Worldwide scope
I know this article only talks about North American sports, but I wonder if anyone outside North America uses the word "clutch"? If not, the article cannot be faulted for a limited geographic scope and the corresponding tags should be removed. Because the article as written even says that the term applies only to American sports, I am going to remove the worldwide tag, but please restore it if there is reason to believe the word "clutch" has a wider usage and athletes from other regions should be added.
Can anyone speak to this? 68.175.61.17 00:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] on Crack?
Wheres Mike Bibby?
[edit] origin?
Does anyone know the origin of the expression? Why people that perform well under pressure started being called "clutch"?
- I don't know, but I am uncomfortable speculating that it came from the engine definition without outside evidence. --Beaker342 22:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I did do some research and the engine thing came from an information posted in the "urban dictionary" website. Since it makes some sense I think that it is good enough for a start, and if it is incorrect whoever knows the correct origin can correct the post. However, striking it out seems to be unproductive.
- Urban dictionary is not a reliable source. Like wikipedia, it is written by users, so I'm putting a fact tag on it. If there are no reliable sources, it needs to go. We can't put information in just because it sounds right. --Beaker342 14:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, lets just give it some time and see if someone else contributes.
- One week should be plenty of time to find a reliable source. My own searches on google and lexisnexis haven't turned up anything of use. If no reliable source can be found it needs to go. I'll turn your attention to WP:V: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. Any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable source, which should be cited in the article...Any edit lacking a source may be removed, but editors may object if you remove material without giving them a chance to provide references. If you want to request a source for an unsourced statement, consider moving it to the talk page." --Beaker342 18:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Profiles?
The "profiles" section of the page attracts a lot of fanboys who just add their favorite player to the list and leave. As such, the section has grown into a huge list of supposedly clutch players, many of whom are still relatively young, with very little or no reason given for their "clutchness" and never ever a corroberating source. Thus, we learn that Vinatieri is the "greatest clutch kicker ever," but we have no idea where the quote comes from. The section needs serious work. --Beaker342 02:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
