Talk:Collective farming
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What is missing?
The history of the idea The development of the idea The implementation in the main countries Differences between sovhoz and kolhoz The reason for failure and success future Collectivization in China
Nontheless, I think there's is too much here to callit a "stub" anymore and I'll take it upon myself to remove that notice. --Christofurio 17:09, Apr 3, 2004 (UTC)
Sorry for my pedantic posting here, but we should keep in mind that encyclopedias determine the placement of topics based on an overall organization.
Based on the title, this is an article on collective farming, i.e. the underlying theory of a producer cooperative in agriculture, as opposed to a profit-maximizing firm. Such an entry should discuss the theoretical organizational arrangements and internal workings of the collective farm (e.g., distribution of output, incentives, the allotment of land, decision-making, etc.) and the ideologies espousing this model. But the content on this page seems to be upside down, focusing more on practice than theory.
Of course, when it came to the Soviet kolkhoz and collective farms modeled after it, the theory and the reality of the collective farming didn't bear much of a resemblance. However, the theory has profound implications for the understanding of collectivization. We have to address this somewhere, so we might as well put it here, where it's supposed to be.
For our purposes here, e.g., coverage of the kolkhoz (the Soviet collective farm - the "practice") belongs in the Economy of the Soviet Union (linked from its parent article, Soviet Union) and related articles. The article on the Soviet economy contains a section on Soviet collective farms, known as the kolkhoz. Stalinist collectivization throughout the Soviet countryside in '29-'33 collectivization is another topic, and it's discussed in entries on Soviet history. 172 00:40, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I suggest that someone also discuss the de-collectivization of collective farms as a historical fact. How far has the process gone? What are the national differences in de-collectivization? What resistance has existed? How id agricultural production respond? --66.231.38.97 06:54, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
The Soviet Union did not undertake the world's first campaign of mass collectivization. The Romans already did the same 2000 years ago.
[edit] Israel POV
Could anyone care to explain what's POV about this section? - TheMightyQuill 01:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I believe that the problem is the association of Kibbutzim with the Soviet disaster. Even though they are both examples or collectivist enterprises, they are completely different in scope and context. Also, most kibbutzim have an artisan shop or an industrial component, meaning they are not strictly "collective farms." Within a broader article that discusses the various economic models for food production [i.e., if this article was well-written], the inclusion would make sense, but currently it does not. 69.209.197.120 20:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- And I beleive the problem is trolling. I removed this ridiculous tag on 2 short sentences.
- By the way, where on Earth you see in them any relation to Soviet disaster? `'mikka 20:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
