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The entire political sense of collective intelligence has been removed, despite a mainstream politician (Al Gore) using it in just this sense. This is censorship, period. I request that you put some element of the material regarding political parties and constitutions as organizing collective action back in, as its removal seems simply to validate the narrowly technical views.

In opposition to the above, I state that technical views are anything but narrow. They are, in fact, quite useful in getting a deep understanding of CI.


Murray Turoff and Roxanne Hiltz researched online Collective Intelligence starting in 1986. Their measure was obtained by comparing the group problem solution with the best individual solution in the group. See http://www.wikiworld.com/wiki/index.php/CollectiveIntelligence

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[edit] Needs wikification

This needs to be split into sections for easier reading/scanning. It probably could also stand to be "tightened up" a bit (i.e., edited), but maybe that's just the impression I got from scanning through the 16 paragraphs with no section breaks. - dcljr (talk) 04:46, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


Okay, I've had a bash at trying to sort it into slightly more managable chunks, but as I don't know a lot about this subject, I'm reluctant to do any more drastic editing!

In particular, the paragraphs that I put under "general concepts" don't make a lot of sense to me. Perhaps they should be edited, re-written or discarded by somebody who understands this topic.

At first glance, the French version of the page appears to be much better written and structured, with more interesting real-world examples. Here's a rough translation of the headings, just to give you a flavour:

  1. 1 Definition
   * 1.1 Charactistics of collective systems
  1. 2 Natural collective intelligence
   * 2.1 Migrating birds
   * 2.2 Ants: a natural model for resolving distributed problems
         o 2.2.1 Task division
               + 2.2.1.1 Mechanisms of task division
         o 2.2.2 The shortest path
   * 2.3 Termites and self-assembly (uncompleted)
  1. 3 Artificial collective intelligence

Perhaps it would be worth translating some of this for the English version? I could do it if necessary. Please contact me if you would find it useful.

Orangejon 03:05, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] SOX and CI

Where I work Sarbanes-Oxley is being taken to mean shut off access to everything, lock down the Internet. And I'm just wondering if there are any thoughts on how that affects the value of a company's collective intelligence, should a shareholder worry if the collective Intelligence is growing increasingly blind.

[edit] Important page-can I help?

I admire Tom Atlee very much and consider Collective Intelligence to be one of the core concepts for restoring democracy in America and elsewhere. If there is anything I can do to help here, please just give me guidance. I will be at the meeting in Boston next month. Would love to get together with folks interested in Collective Intelligence and/or Open source intelligence Robert Steele 20:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


This article presupposes the truth of emergent conciousness and consequently the falsehood of Cartesian dualism:"Your conciousness _is_..." etc.

[edit] redundant info

symbiotic intelligence is a wonderful candidate for merging with collective intelligence look closely, and you'll find that apart from the label, there is nothing distinctive in there. -- Kku 11:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree --UB 08:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I disagree, due to the following reasons: (1) symbiotic intelligence may overlap with collective intelligence because some definitions of collective intelligence are all-encompassing, but is still a different and a better-defined concept, based on notion of symbiosis. For example, averaging opinions is a collective intelligence, but imho has little to do with symbiosis, (2) parts participating in symbiosis do not necessarily fit the definition of collective, e.g. eukaryotic cells and mitochondria, a perfect example of symbiosis that is very different from our intuitive notion of collective that assumes presence of some degree of homogeneity, (3) symbiotic intelligence is quite well-defined at this point, while the concept of collective intelligence is vague and hadn't settled down yet. Alex Kosorukoff 20:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pathological reference

Does anyone know what the body of knowledge is being referred to in this passage (i.e. a citation needed) in the History section?:

"In the past twenty years, a body of knowledge has emerged which demonstrates that secrecy is actually pathological, and enables selfish decisions against the public interest."

Mark Elliott 01:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Book: Collective Intelligence in Computer-Based Collaboration

I am familiar with this book by John Smith: Collective Intelligence in Computer-Based Collaboration (published by Lawrence Erlbaum Associates in 1995). In it, Smith outlines his theory of collective intelligence as the information processes that groups undertake to transform intangible knowledge (private and shared) into tangible knowledge (instrumental and target) aided by ephemeral knowledge (information in between tangible and intangible that is destroyed or lost after brief periods of use and not included within the final target artifact). Do you think that a section on this work would be relevant in this page? Jsarmi 20:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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