Talk:Corazon Aquino

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Contents 1 What's written below is a fact. Why was the article reverted to its earlier version? 2 You are all slaves 3 removal of Spanish-Filipino category 4 Seattle University not University of Washington 5 Nobel Peace Prize nomination

[edit] What's written below is a fact. Why was the article reverted to its earlier version?

"However, her (Aquino's) call for the president's (Macapagal-Arroyo's) resignation was twitted by most of Macapagal-Arroyo's supporters due to her perceived lack of moral integrity to call for such action due to her family's failure to resolve the problem in Hacienda Luisita, a 6000-hectare plantation owned by the Cojuangco family. It can be recalled that in November 2004, 14 people died and hundreds were injured in a clash between the striking poor workers and the military/police. Up to the present, such issue is being hurled against the former president. She was even advised to clean her own backyard first, referring to the 6,000-hectare estate, before dipping her hands in the affairs of the entire 30-million-hectare archipelago."

[edit] You are all slaves

If this site is after the truth, why do you write only the good things.Why you have to consider the segment "A Hope that Failed " as vandalism. If you are a Filipino, you know that this is the only true segment

Wikipedia is devoted to NPOV (Neutral Point of View). It is okay to say that some people believe that she failed, but to say or imply that YOU believe that is POV. It is vandalism to deliberately edit an article to inject biased views. It is acceptable to QUOTE a authoritative source with POV, but to present such opinion as if it were objective fact is considered POV, which is against Wikipedia's policy. David Cannon 12:04, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Then you in Wikipedia are not after the truth. Why do you people always want to say just the good things, even if it is a lie. Why you dont want to publish the truth ? Because it is not pleasing to the ears of these people? Anyway this is your site, sorry to disturb you. but what you wrote about Corazon Aquino is wrong. And if you are wrong with some things, how can I trust in other things?

Besides, it is already a common knowledge to every Filipino, that Aquino was hiding in Cebu during the People Power, that she sided on Ramos instead of Mitra, that there were several coup attempts against her government, That the country never recovered from poverty. I thought you are after for the truth. If you will hide these information to the public, then in the years to come, they will only get the good things that you wrote.But not all the infomation that they need to know. I think it is still a lie. By the way, Seav is too young to write an article for Aquino. He relied on many biased books. I was there during the EDSA revolution, I was there during the Martial Laws, I was there when Mambo-Mambo Magsaysay was the most popular song. I was there when Yay Marking was deleted from the History Books by Marcos. Do you think the books could offer more information than mine? I dont think so.. So it is all up to you if you would delete my article. There is one thing I want you to know, you are the one being biased.

== David you are a liar if you will say that you don't learn a thing from the " A hope that Failed " article

You (I can only call you "you" because you have not identified yourself) need to have a look at the HISTORY button at the top of the article. You will see that I did not write this article and my involvement with it has been minimal. Yes, I'll admit I am an admirer of this woman, though I **AM NOT** blind to her shortcomings. What you wrote, I have heard before. That said, there is no place for blatant POV in Wikipedia. That's a no-no. As I said, there is nothing wrong with *ATTRIBUTING* POV to a source. You can quote some politician, or professor, or journalist, making it clear that you are quoting a source and are not stating opinion as fact. Likewise, it is acceptable to say that some believe that she failed. To say that "some believe" - or even "many believe" - that she failed is not the same as saying that she did fail. You need to distinguish the relative from the absolute here, and you've been failing to do that.

If I had more time, I would rewrite what you've written, rather than just snuffing it. Right now I'm busy preparing lessons for my students for the next semester, which is why I've hardly had a look in at Wikipedia since the end of May. Hopefully, the next month will afford me the time to return to Wikipedia. Then I might be able to work out a way to include some of your sentiments in the article as third-party opinion. There are some parts of what you wrote that could be salvaged, but doing so is, to be perfectly frank with you, like trying to find a lost gold ring in a room strewn with articles of lesser value. You obviously write good English, and it would be a wonderful thing if you could learn to distinguish fact from opinion, the relative from the absolute. But don't go around writing biased articles purporting to be fact. That's anti-Wiki. David Cannon 11:32, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

My sincere apology - I am really sorry for the mess. It was really too late for me to know about your NPOV rules. The feeling was like the enjoyment of riding a new race car, leting it run too fast, then suddenly you realize that there is no brake. Again, my apology.

Thank you, that's appreciated I think. Don't worry about it too much, it takes a while for most people to learn the ropes here. I for one am looking forward to seeing an article on Yay Marking. - Hephaestos|§ 05:58, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ok

[edit] removal of Spanish-Filipino category

I would like to remove this category.--Jondel 09:59, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seattle University not University of Washington

Corazon Aquino was awarded an honorary doctorate from Seattle University not the University of Washington. The TV broadcast of the ceremony was produced by the University of Washington, however.

Source: http://www.uwtv.org/programs/displayseries.asp?collid=276

[edit] Nobel Peace Prize nomination

• She is also the first Filipino to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize after leading the bloodless EDSA revolution during the time of Marcos. [1]

Being nominated for the Peace Prize is an honor, but it is not official or even prestigious. Any national legislator or about a third of the university professors in the world can make a nomination, and there have been as many as 140 some years. Nominators are requested to keep their nominations secret, so it's only those wishing publicity who make announcements, and more often it is impossible to verify. In this case, there's no way of knowing if she was the first Filipino nominated. I see no reason to keep this material. No offense to the subject, this is a general Nobel Peace Prize "nominees" issue. -Will Beback · † · 08:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)