Talk:Counter-Enlightenment
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This article can be improved. Please prep however with Dictionary of the History of Ideas: "The Counter-Enlightenment" before adding to this report of a movement in the history of ideas and keep to the subject. This is not an occasion for essay paragraphs justifying a Christian approach to rationalism. --Wetman 06:26, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Franco Lopez?
There is a situation at [[Franco Lopez]] (recently created by an anon, no sources cited) where someone claimed the article is a fake (indeed, it was deleted). I restored it, since the name existed as a red link in this article since its creation, adding the {{unsourced}} tag and a note about the situation on [[Talk:Franco Lopez]]. I did not find a reference to Lopez in the online sources for this article. Can someone take an interest in the situation? We did have a user recently who created some hoax articles, not all of which have been found yet. Demi T/C 23:47, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's a hoax, I've deleted it. DS 01:58, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am not sure if it is a hoax. Although the deleted "Franco Lopez" article was a hoax, this name had been up for over 21 months (since the creation of the article). Perhaps Lopez is referenced in Berlin's book? --67.175.171.92, 21:26 11 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Horkheimer/Adorno
"The locus classicus of this view is Max Horkheimer and Theodor Adorno's "Dialectic of Enlightenment" (1947), which traces the degeneration of enlightenment from ancient Greece (epitomised by the cunning 'bourgeois' hero Odysseus) to twentieth century fascism. (Tellingly, they say nothing about communism, which is, for many liberal critics of the Enlightenment like Berlin and Jacob Talmon, directly descended from the rationalism of the philosophes)."
This is not entirely correct - at least Adorno included communist totalitarism into his critique of enlightenment in his later texts. I am not sure about the Dialectic of Enlightenment, but as far as I remember the Soviet Union was referenced in it too. I am sorry, I don't have my (german) copy of the book with me - could someone check this? I didn't want to change it since I don't have access to my library currently, so I can't source. Sorry if I made a mistake in formating, I am not used to Wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 154.20.16.100 (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
