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[edit] Signed on with son's computer
I didn't want anyone questioning the difference in IP addresses. I hope this is ok to do, it this is a problem please let me know. --Crohnie 19:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Crohnie, just a quick note to set your mind at rest. It's completely acceptable to sign in from different computers - in fact that's one of the benefits of registering an account. As a registered user you can make all your edits under a single identity, regardless of the computer you're using. Another benefit (if such things bother you) is that you actually gain a greater degree of anonymity by signing in, as your IP address is then only viewable by administrators with access to the checkuser tool, who would only be likely to use it in a very limited set of circumstances (see the link). Good luck with your editing; if you have any further questions, I'm among thousands of Wikipedians who will be happy to help - just leave a message on my talk page and I'll get back to you when I'm next online. All the best, --YFB ¿ 04:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I responded to you on your talk page, thank you for your comments. They helped. --Crohnie 22:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mentorship
In response to your question on my talk page, I think you do need a mentor. You have been offered an adoptor, and I suggest you contact them. Otherwise I am still here to help occasionally, but not as a formal mentor who knows the ropes better than I do. -- Fyslee (collaborate) 23:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, he said he would adopt me but disappeared. I haven't heard from him in a long time and the last I saw he hadn't posted for awhile. I wrote on his talk page on Jan. 23 & 24 (I think those are the dates) but he never responded back to me. --Crohnie 23:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I can recommend User:Lethaniol. Fair, firm, and not partisan. That's the best kind. You don't need a "yes" man if you are in a conflict situation. You need someone who sees things from a different POV and can offer constructive advice. Make a request on the talk page. -- Fyslee (collaborate) 23:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't need a yes man, I just need someone with a lot of patience as you know. Do I do this on his talk page? --Crohnie 23:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I figured this out myself, thanks again for your help. --Crohnie 23:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Adoption Request
Hi Crohnie,
Thank you for request for Adoption, but I afraid I will have to decline, for the only reason that I feel that I can only take on one Adoptee who is involved in controversial editing of the same articles. Now I am not saying you have made any controversial edits, but if you look at this current case ArbCom [1] you can see that the topics you have been editing fall into the controversies involved in this ArbCom.
Having said that there are plenty of other Adopters who may be able to help you see [2], and until you find another adopter, I am happy to answer any technical questions on how to edit Wikipedia - obviously I would prefer not to get involved in any questions about how to interpret policies or user conduct with respect to the controversial topics. So please ask any technical questions at my talk page. Cheers Lethaniol 14:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am sorry to hear you may leave, what I suggest you do instead is start editing on these controversial articles slowly e.g. on the articles themselves copy edit formatting, spelling and grammar, for bigger changes/additions suggest them at the talk page, and let others enact upon them initially. Cheers Lethaniol 14:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pyoderma
Hey Chronie, no hurry, thanks for getting back to me. I sent that email. By the way, if you ever need any help with anything, don't hesitate to leave me a message on my talk page, I'm always glad to help and am very patient :) I'd also be glad to formally adopt you if you like (which as I understand it amounts to the same thing--you ask me about anything you have questions about). I don't have experience with the getting permissions for copyrighted pictures, but as I understand it the copyright holder needs to email the foundation granting permission to use the pictures. Let me look into this and then I can guide you through the process.
With the decision about the pictures, I think the best would be to upload all the pictures and post them to the talk page so all editors can give input about which ones to use. I don't want to be the arbitrary authority or anything :) Anyway, thanks again. I'll get back to you when I've looked through the permissions thing. Peace, delldot talk 20:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- First, I would love to have you as my mentor. If you have patience with someone with serious medical problems and a slow learning curve then I accept. If I am too much to handle let me know.
- I got your email, thanks, what I did was forward it all to you ( the pictures and the email giving me permission from the personal owner who sent me the pictures.) The pictures are not copywriten, they are an email friend's personal pictures he took, this is so you are clear on this. I looked and tried to download and fill out that form and didn't understand it as of yet. As for putting the pictures on the talk page, they are very graphic so I would love your opinion about them. As for downloading them anywhere, I tried and couldn't do it. I tried for over thirty minutes before asking you to email me. I hope the pictures are ok to use because they really show what PG is. Thanks for your help. --Crohnie 21:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Good news. I've been chatting in the IRC channel and folks there agree that you don't have to go through the formal process of getting him to email the foundation, since the pictures have never been published. You can just upload it and assert that your friend (who does, I think, technically hold the copyright) gives permission for them to be released under the GFDL.
- We do need to get him to email you another email giving express permission to release them under the GFDL, though, because in the email you forwarded me it wasn't clear that he understood that he was giving permission for them to be used by anyone for any reason, not just on Wikipeida. So he should say something like, "I own the copyright to the images mentioned in your email. I grant permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, no Back-Cover Texts, and subject to disclaimers found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GFDL" And definitely let him know we won't use his name or any personal info. Once we have that email from him, I can guide you through the steps of uploading the images. Peace, delldot talk 21:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I just emailed him, will get the email to you as soon as I receive it. Thanks!--Crohnie 22:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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- No problem, just ask about anything you want to know. If you need me to go slower or anything, just ask, I'm very patient. Is there anything specifically you want to start working on?
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- Cool that you emailed your friend.
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- Also, I had an idea for the pictures. I was thinking that since they're graphic, we could put them in a special template with a "show" "hide" button like {{afc top}} so people could decide whether or not they wanted to look at them. But I discussed it on IRC and apparently its use is contentious. So I'll have to figure out from others what the problem is and if there's any way to address it. Anyway, what do you think? Peace, delldot talk 01:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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First, I got the email last night so I'll send it to you. Right now I have been slowly working the sandbox with tutorials. Other than that I have been contributing to talk pages with my idea on articles like Clayton's college to help get balance and school information in it. This it the only article that I got told to be bold and to put my found info into the article, which I did and then two other editors just polished my imput. I have to admit it was fun. I have to work today so I'll be gone most of the day here soon. I work for my son who helps me get out and about and use my brain a bit. Actually I like it, I feel so much better usually doing something useful. I have hopes this site will give me the same feeling of usefullness.
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- As for the picture, when they were first available a lot of people wanted to have them emailed to them and they had no problems with them being too graphic. Then again, this is a different kind of site so the hide button might be a good idea with a little note or something warning it is graphic so that anyone going to look know it is graphic. I know the pictures are really graphic but they really should be in the article because this is what PG does to a crohn's patient. It's not pretty, but it is very painful. --Crohnie 12:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures
Yeah, the Crohn's pictures are pretty graphic. And I think there's no question that their use is justified; they can demonstrate aspects of the diseases that you just can't convey with words alone. And wikipedia is not censored. But I think it would be handy to have a hide button, since some folks may be sensitive about it (e.g. I saw a note on the Crohn's talk page saying that one person wanted them taken down). But I guess that's been tried and some folks didn't like it :(
About the email, I think you'll have to get him to send it again :( He has to explicitly state that he releases the pictures for use under the GFDL so that anyone can use and distribute them for any reason. You should ask him to cut and paste this wording: "I own the copyright to the images mentioned in your email. I grant permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, no Back-Cover Texts, and subject to disclaimers found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GFDL" Sorry for the rigamarole, I hate to put him through the hassle. Good luck with everything, let me know if you have any questions or whatnot! Peace, delldot talk 16:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- I sent him what you say above just now. I should hear from him soon. I also corrected your spelling of crohn's. I guess it's kind of a pet peeve of mine! :) Question: is it ok to put it towards the bottom of the article with a warning that the pictures are real graffic and then post the pictures below this warning? --Crohnie 21:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pix
No hurry about the pictures, I just feel bad to be badgering your friend. I agree that they will be really useful. Keep me updated! Peace, delldot talk 22:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- I apologized to him too about feeling bad about asking for more of a release but he should be ok with it. He understands what we are trying to do and with your explaination he should have no problems with it. --Crohnie 22:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Thanks again
Thank you! I think you're much more patient than I am. I'm disabled too and had to learn to appreciate what I had left in terms of memory, concentration and "up-time". As to learning to edit Wikipedia, I know from experience that it may be tedious at times and think you are doing a good job. AvB ÷ talk 23:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)