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[edit] "Universities" in Ukraine

whoever edited this page on 12.12.05 please read this http://www.canadian-universities.net/World_Universities/Ukraine.html

there are hundreds of universities in ukraine .. lol (unsigned by anon)

The following is moved from user talk:Irpen.

Dear, Irpen! I have to remind you that your edits should be confirmed by creadible sources. You may dislike one or another university, but this is not reason do not count it as university. Much more important how it is classified officially. I suggest you to revert your recent changes of the article Culture of Ukraine.--AndriyK 18:07, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

If you want to have them listed as Universities, make sure you elaborate about the "renamings" of Tekhnikums to Universities in early 90s and the level of these KharchProm universities. I will have no objection then. Otherwise, this is misleading and looks silly that Kiev Oblast has more University than California with its Stanford, Caltech, Berkeley, UCLA, Pepperdine, etc. --Irpen 18:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

KharchProm has never been "technikum", it's your own fantasies. In any case, I remind you once more: you edits should be confirmed by creadible sources.--AndriyK 18:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I remember that HarchProm was an "institute". Whatever it was, if you want to call all these institutions "universities", make sure you explain the devaluation of the term during the renaming frenzie that took place not only in UA but in many other post-Soviet countries. Otherwise, the info is misleading as explained above. Actually, this may be a subject for a separate article. --Irpen 18:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

The point is not how I or you whant to call it. The point is how it's called officially and how it's recognized by official institutions. I urge you once more to revert your own changes and do not sisrupt Wikipedia by your own tastes.--AndriyK 18:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

All I want is an explanation along these lines in the article if they are called there "Universities". If you have no time/desire to write an explanation yourself, I will do that and we will add info to the article without making it misleading. Since you are busy with quick-fix pro-Ukrainian edits, I think it is likely that I will have to do the writing myself. --Irpen 18:38, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

This was not about universities, this was about your habit to edit tha papers according to your privat opinion and ignoring creadible sources. You are wellcome to add the explanation but please base it on creadible sources.--AndriyK 19:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your advise. In the meanwhile you may reconsider your disinterest to actually write things instead of quick-fix POV changes, and write this yourself. I will certainly do that in the due time if you are too busy and/or uninterested. --Irpen 20:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rugby is the second most favourie sport in Ukraine ? are you joking?

Rugby ? No one has ever heared of Rugby in Ukraine.

[edit] What??

As I was reading this article, I read this line:

"It is a matter of convention not to shake hands and offer anything over a threshold."

I had to read this sentence a few times, and I realize it DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE! Are you trying to say it is a matter of convention not to shake hands, AND it is ALSO a matter of convention not to offer anything over a threshold (which in itself is very unclear) or are you trying to say it is a matter of convention not to shake hands while offering something over a threshold? Or what? I honestly am MORE confused after trying to read this sentence than before. Instead of learning something I'm confused, which is not what Wiki is about, so can someone who knows something not only about Ukrainian customs but also about ENGLISH GRAMMAR fix this up please? AC 22:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

AirCombat, I have rewritten the above sentence for clarity. The custom is not to shake hands or offer anything over a doorsill. If you find anything else of the sort, make a note here so it can be addressed if possible. Thanks, --Riurik (discuss) 06:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
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