Talk:Daniel Barenboim
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Someone familiar with the facts needs to replace words like "now" and "recently" so they won't soon become obsolete. -- zero 14:39, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)
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[edit] Israeli?
He was born in Argentina and has argentinian nationality...
- I am watching an interview with Barenboim as we speak and he just mentioned that he went to school in Israel because his parents didn't want him to live as a "minority" in Argentina. I guess that means he considers himself Israeli.
- oktay 01:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Barenboim, du Pré and Bashkirova
In this article, it reads:
- In the last years of du Pre's life, Barenboim secretly set up home in Paris with pianist Elena Bashkirova, and fathered two children by her.
In the article about du Pré, however, the word "secretly" is not used; on the contrary, it is mentioned that the new relationship was set up "with his wife's consent".
Could someone with more knowledge please clear this conflict? -- SirWoland 17:36, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
- Is it really necessary to include all of this very private stuff in the article? I'd prefer that it just be left out: irrelevant to the guy's career, for which he's known, and makes the article sound trashy -- Wikipedia becomes People Magazine... So what if it was "in a movie"?
- --Kessler 20:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sort of along the same lines, "Du Pré developed advanced multiple sclerosis, and in the early 1980s Barenboim lived with pianist Elena Bashkirova and fathered two children (David and Michael) with Bashkirova before his wife's death." makes it sounds like there's a cause effect relationship between developing MS and getting married :)
- oktay 01:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] overuse of [[]]
Would someone pls explain to me what the point is of surrounding every proper noun or date or numeral with [[]], and what Wikipedia policy on this is?
Seems to me it's overkill, as recently applied in this article and elsewhere: usual editing practice, for this sort of thing, is to show diacriticals in the first instance but then omit them in following -- ditto spelling out abbreviations -- including them for everything makes the article unreadable, IMHO.
--Kessler 22:00, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Father's name
His parents were Russian Jews, yet his father's name is given as "Enrique". This is a common name in Spanish speaking countries, but the Russian equivalent "Genrikh" is a very unusual name in Russia. Was there a name change somewhere along the way? JackofOz 12:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV/Verifiability Problems
The newly added section on "His Music" suffered from serious WP:NPOV and Wikipedia:Verifiability problems. I've tried to fix most of the POV, but a lot of the new material is not backed up with citations. Grover cleveland 08:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
- The POV problems that were removed were the result of a contributor inserting what appear to be his or her own opinions into the article. Here's an example
- As for his interpretation, he tends not to impose a rather far-reaching personal interpretation when playing.
- Inasmuch as this sentence means anything at all, it is clearly a value judgment, not a statement of undisputed fact. Therefore it should be reported by attributing that opinion to a critic or other observer and including Verifiable citation information. For example:
- critic X has claimed that Barenboim tends not to impose a personal interpretation when playing (see New York Times, Arts section, 2 March 2001, p. 25).
- Such value judgments should not be baldly asserted by Wikipedia. See WP:NPOV: "assert facts, including facts about opinions — but do not assert opinions themselves". Grover cleveland 09:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
