User talk:Dante-kun

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A tag has been placed on Sigil Studios, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Tikiwont 08:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

To avoid further grievances, I've removed the speedy tag and put the article up for a broader disussion here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sigil Studios.--Tikiwont 11:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Berger

A tag has been placed on James Berger, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Tikiwont 08:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I see your point in being irritated about the speedy deletion (which was reverted) but not your case about WP:BLP. Tikiwont 10:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The subject is simply not notable. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 10:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Above acronym is actually another link to a guideline about biographies that I already mentioned. In simple words there is no indication of sufficient, independent works that are reliable and can act as the basis for an encyclopedic article. As for Sigil Studios, I will put it up for disussion. --Tikiwont 10:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you for elucidating. I was under the belief that we could write about ourselves on wikipedia. Why do I need independent works in order to write about myself? Dante-kun 10:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Here's the template response. Some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia may not be sufficiently well-known to merit articles of their own. The Wikipedia community welcomes newcomers. On Wikipedia, all users are entitled to a user page in which they can describe themselves, and this article's content may be incorporated into that page. However, to merit inclusion in the encyclopedia proper, a subject must be notable, with reference to reliable published sources. We encourage you to write or improve articles on notable subjects. Turlo Lomon 10:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok. If I create an account named 'James Berger', you're saying that the user page is where I would put the content that was under the wiki article 'James Berger'? Dante-kun 10:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

You can create a user page about yourself if you register that name, as long as you do not go overboard. But if you feel you are notable enough to warrant an article, it's best to request someone else do it. Regardless, everything added to Wikipedia should be sourced.--Chris Griswold (☎☓) 10:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah. Pardon my misunderstanding. I am not heavily into wikipedia, as I suppose you may have noticed by now heh. I now understand the difference between a user page and an article and why the confusion ensued. If you wish that a second person write an article about me, can you keep an archived copy of what I originally put down for them to refer to? Dante-kun 10:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

• Well, let me add that I did not recognize this as potential user page becasue it was linked (as founder) by Sigil Studios. With respect to the lost content you could ask either User:ChrisGriswold or here Wikipedia:Deletion review#Content review for it to be restored in your use space. However, I have to point you to another guideline Wikipedia:User page which states that your userpage is for anything that is compatible with the Wikipedia project. It is a mistake to think of it as a homepage: Wikipedia is not a blog, webspace provider, or social networking site. Instead, think of it as a way of organizing the work that you are doing on the articles in Wikipedia, and also a way of helping other editors to understand with whom they're working. --Tikiwont 12:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Ahso. Well, in that case, the previous content is fairly useless. C'est la vie. Dante-kun 12:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

To be fair, many, many editors start here by creating an article about themselves or something they are connected to. Usually these are deleted for not being quite notable or referenced enough to stay. I know I did it. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 08:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It is rather heady to have the ability to add things to an encyclopedia heh. Dante-kun 05:45, 23 February 2007 (UTC)