User talk:Darrenss

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You said --- "I am trying to open discussions about this and am happy to have someone else look over it. Please note user: Potters Pouse changed it again. I have never made any slanderous comments to the said user, there is a difference between personal attacks and constuctive criticism that people can benifit from. I have commented already to user: Potters House on the discussion of his homepage and have not made any slanderous remarks and I am not interested in slandering the user or the Potter's House Christian Fellowship but acurately informing the public as to the nature of the criticism of the church and providing current up-to-date information for people to follow up on if they so desired. user:darrenss 14:20 February 2007"

You got me. I was discussing this pleasantly with him. I thought he understood the discussion pages both user and article are for, well 'Discussing' not user pages. This mediation he keeps citing doesn't at all resolve the issue and nothing at all is said about the links on your own user page. He says slanderous statments were made about him. A simple thing to do is take it to wiki again lay it out both of you. Though one thing has piqued my interest he keeps saying the links are about him directly. If the links are ok for the article just poor quality and he is mentioned in the links would that not be a conflict of interest. Anyway you guys work it out I am staying NPOV on this. Just enforcing wiki policy as a regular editor. --Xiahou 03:39, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid Nick has confused personal attacks with providing facts and support on the potters house. Please go to the firstplumbline and see it has nothing to do with personal attacks on the user but current up-to-date information reports the facts on the concerns the public and ex-members have about the Potters House church. Ths is no trick I'm proposing just support and help for the general public that they can go to and see what the issues are themselves. The user is dominating the information and not proving the actual facts on the subject. Yes I edited the potters house page and the user reverted it, so I left it until I could get further advice. However the user deleted my homepage claiming the links I had were all poor and slanderous. I say again not just for my page but for the Potters House acticle that the truth of the current status of the objections to the church should be told not a one sided bias and links should be given that are current with good research and resources that people can benifit from. The user will not allow that. I call for anyone to advise on this, maybe I wasn't here when the older discussions were made but I am now and I state for the record that the user user:Potters House is purposely with holding information to prevent informing the public of the current status of the situation. I know myself for I atended the church for almost 5 years and left in Dec 2005, so I know whats it all about personally.user:darrenss 15:25 February 2007

I have also provided some links on my user page that offer an alternitive view to the links you posted on your userpage. You may wish to see them, the links are: Thanks Potters house 07:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Keep your links off my user page please. I'll give you 2 days to remove them. Delete them or I will. The discussion is at the potters house page not here. Make your case over there. Oh and if you link http://www.waymanmitchell.com/Critics.htm again I will delete it on site. This is nothing but your own slanderous accusations without any real proof. And keep your yahoo groups link off as well, I can't believe people would be misled to think your own groups have any actual valid facts that are varifiable. Just remember Nick there are 2 sides to every arguement and so far I've let you off the hook. Be warned, I'm being nice but don't push your luck.Darrenss 08:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Please note placed a list of links here that I deleted They serve no purpose placing them on my talk page and furthermore some of the links are to webpages he himself has authored which I am offended by and rather not list them here. Please go to Potters house to find those links. Furthermore the discusson as previously mentioned is on the Potter's House Christian Fellowship discussion page, so please in future do not place lists of links here that you know I consider to be inappropriate. ThanksDarrenss 00:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Charisma Magazine link

You may be interested in this link: [1]. I've also amended the articles on Wayman Mitchell and Potter's House accordingly. --One Salient Oversight 06:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

BTW, check out the problems I've had in the past with the PH. And I'm not even one of them. [2]

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism and immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you.

You are in danger of violating the three revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. Potters house 07:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern, I'll say the same for you as well.Darrenss 07:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to delete or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia, you will be blocked.

Nick you are the one who will not co-operate. The whole history of the potters house article is you fighting with every wikipedia editor around. Do not make threats against me, you are in the wrong sir and harrassing me will not help your cause.Darrenss 19:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalise Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.

[edit] Previous cases

On the User Page you spoke of previous cases, the first is not me and I was not involved. I may have edited during that time but I was not a regular wikipedian then.

Ross' friends had a double standard, hence the reason I object to other "poor quality links" being added. Basically, they hate anything against Ross, but they didn't mind any other link even those of poorer quality. But they were amazed when they discovered that the link they were trying to permit was also made by Neil Taylor, a former Fellowship pastor and close friend of mine. So basically the only reason for the objection of the Ross link was that it was against Ross, it had nothing to do with quality, that was just an excuse to get the link removed. I think that an admin should look at the links and decide what is to reamain, otherwise we will be arguing forever. Potters house 07:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Nick there is nothing to worry about, I'm simply reviewing past history for present knowledge. Nothing against you or anybody else. I'll be standing on the backs of others so to speak, covering previous topics for current circumstances. Don't stress, I want to go over as much as I can. If you have any other problems (cases/debates on either of these articles with other editors) you can point them out so I can go over them. I just like to get my facts right and research the whole story from the beginning. Thats the best way I think is to get a fresh perspective. I've also gone over much of the previous edits on the Potters House article and who's been involved to get a picture of how its evolved so to speak. Remember when the article was started I was still in the Potters House so I would not of even been aware of it at that stage. Nothing to worry about I just like to be prepared. Also I've been going over the wikipedia policies as time permits. Just take a breath, step back and we'll get to it soon. I'll be pretty busy over the next 2 weeks but I would suggest to you to go over the material and policies as well, it might help. Take it slow because there is alot of issues that need to be addressed so much as I can see. The point is to get the article properly sourced and verified, in NPOV and have appropriate links that we can agree upon. Godbless Darrenss 07:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Amen Potters house 11:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)