Template talk:Db-copyvio

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Contents 1 Usage 2 Note 3 Placed/named parameters 4 Please read Template talk:Db-reason before editing. 5 Not working properly? 6 Problem with URLs 7 Why 48 hours? 8 another problem with url

[edit] Usage

{{db-copyvio|url=SOURCEURL}}

• SOURCEURL should be the full URL of the source from which the content was taken. It will be used in an external link, so it should be the full URL, including "http://".

• NOTE if the URL contains and "=" signs, you must use the named parameter ("url=..."), as the positional parameter syntax ({{db-copyvio|SOURCEURL}}) will not work in that case.

[edit] Note

Note that this cannot be constructed in the recently-instituted manner of the other db- templates (as {db-reason|reason} between includeonly tags) owing to the need for a parameter. -Splash^talk 02:29, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

• Also note that this template is not identical to the {{db}} template: at the bottom, it includes a directive for administrators to verify if the author of the article has been notified of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Titoxd 02:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

The current wording of the template states that the unauthorized content is from a commercial provider. The word "commercial" refers to endeavors that are used to make money; however, unauthorized copies posted to Wikipedia are not necessarily from commercial sites. Content that is not permitted to be copied in certain manners, but which may or may not actually be commercial in nature, might be more properly referred to as "proprietary". Should the wording be changed?

No, because this template is only intended for such commercial providers. All other copyright problems should be blanked with {{copyvio}} instead and listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. They sit there for a week to give someone the opportunity to grant permission. Things tagged with this tag are intended to be those we are virtually certain not to get permission for. -Splash^talk 17:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Signed comment edited by non-author: change "copyvo" to "copyvio"

[edit] Placed/named parameters

The template syntax breaks when a url contains an equals sign: for example, the url in {{db-copyvio | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cat}} expands to "{{{1}}}", exactly as if no parameter had been specified at all. While the problem can be worked around by using {{db-copyvio | 1=http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cat}}, this is confusing to document and generally cryptic. I therefore propose that this be changed to a named url= parameter, as in {{copyvio}}, which will avoid the issue entirely; it's certainly a better solution than adding a little "If the url you wish to reference contains a =, please use this format instead:" subtitle to every place that mentions this template. —Cryptic (talk) 03:18, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

If that will solve the problem, be BOLD and go for it. Just try to make a note of that where the template is mentioned, if you consider it necessary. Titoxd^(?!?) 05:02, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Although this fixes issues, it makes it more hard to use in my view, and means to does not follow the standard, used in db. I think it should be changed back - or maybe a note added asking users to use 1= in the case of odd URLs, or encode their URL in address standard (not sure what = is, but for example ' ' is %20;). Ian13 18:46, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Why not have it work like the regular copyvio tag and just do {{db-copyvio|http://foo.com}}? Peyna 21:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I've made the parameter name optional, like in {{copyvio}}. (We didn't have default parameters when this was discussed in October, so this wasn't possible then.) Now, either way works. —Cryptic (talk) 00:35, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please read Template talk:Db-reason before editing.

If you are contemplating editing this template, especially with regards to categorization or parameters, please read the discussion at Template talk:Db-reason.

{{db-reason}} is the meta-template from which all these templates derive, and is also used for CSD in its own right. Some of the other CSD templates are also used both as meta-templates, and as templates in their own right. Because of this, the relationship between these templates, their parameters, and the issue of categorization (so that candiate articles get categorized, but the templates temselves don't) is more complex that it appears at first glance. The discussion on Template talk:Db-reason should elucidate some of these issues. Jamie ^{(talk/contribs)} 04:27, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Not working properly?

db-copyvio is appearing as the plain old db template on Phalia. Anyone else having this problem? -- Avocado 17:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Sure am. I am having the same problem and I though it was me.--Esprit15d 16:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

(Example removed. —Pathoschild 17:12, 6 January 2006 (UTC))

It seems to be working fine. —Pathoschild 21:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm having trouble at Inscrutable Americans. WTF, mates? Melchoir 12:11, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The equals sign seems to be causing a problem with the meta-template; I'll address the issue immediately. Thanks for pointing this out. —Pathoschild 17:12, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The problem has been fixed. —Pathoschild 17:24, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with URLs

I've run into the same problem a couple of times lately where the template has a problem with long URLs like this one. Instead of the usual notice, it says "...from the website of a commercial content provider: {{{url}}}, with no assertion...". I'm not sure if this is an issue with the length of the URL, the syntax, or something else. Does anyone know what's going on? --DMG413 01:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• This keeps coming up. It appears to be an issue with the syntax, specifically with the use of the =' in the URL. I still don't know how to fix it (or if it can be fixed), though. --DMG413 19:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why 48 hours?

I need some help with the 48 hour aspect of this. I just noticed that this Country Radio Broadcasters, Inc. article is identical to this [1] site. It is older than 48 hours though, it dates from 17:46, 24 August 2006. It should still be deleted under A8, right? DVD+ R/W 02:38, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Note, the copyvio has now been surgically removed and the article is beginning to be rewritten. I would like to hear other opinions on why there is a 48 hour requirement though, when it isn't a mirrored site. DVD+ R/W 03:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] another problem with url

Here's an example of a URL that doesn't work:

{{db-g12|1=http://thelibrary.org/booklist/titles_jackets.cfm?catid=577}}

Seems the question mark breaks it. — coelacan — 20:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems to work fine with the "1=" before it. Is there a non-obvious problem? -Amarkov moo! 22:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)