Talk:Defense

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I sense a large amount of non-NPOV here... I think this article needs to be drastically reworked. I'll start by moving a chunk of the text that seems unnecessary to the /talk page, but I think people more experienced than I should try their hand at this article... --KA

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moved block: buutttt heads suck monkey butts Defense in the modern world goes beyond 'Oogh',our caveman, and his club beating down tigers. Today defense is a multibillion dollar exploration into the latest, greatest technologies. Defense today, for many Americans, means a fighter jet buzzing overhead, or raining down bombs on 'evilones' oversees. Defense means a gun on the nightstand, a can of mace in the purse, a Club--the popular lock for steering wheels--on their car, a five-sided building with men in pressed pants, decorated with metals, standing over maps, and saving our country from those who wish us harm. Defense has become a 200-plus billion dollar budget allocation to the Armed Forces alone in the United States, not to mention Homeland Security; the FBI, the CIA, the NSC, and the thousands of police departments from New York City, New York, to Proctorville, Ohio.

Defense, though in many senses, has reamined the same; we all need to protect ourselves and those that we value--ou r family, our friends,our neighbors,the citizens of our country-- from the adversity of our enviroment, and the dangerous that surround us. Though defense may have started with Ugh fighting :off a tiger --though it likely did not--, the business of defense can no longer be seen as a solo operation: Any real defense is a common defense

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I'd like to make this more useful as a disambiguation page. So how about adding links to pages at Defense (sport), Defense (legal), Defense (politics) and Defense (military)? Is this a good idea? Are these the best titles? -- sannse 07:43 May 3, 2003 (UTC)

I think this makes sense, as far as defense (legal) is concerned such a page can really be a quite detailed article in its own right, and seeing how many law topic pages link here, it makes sense that it has its own link so that those pages can be corrected to link directly there. Alex756 10:32 16 May 2003 (UTC)

OK, I'll have a go at separating the pages. They will be rather stubish for now but hopefully will develop. -- sannse 19:01 16 May 2003 (UTC)

That's much better. Good move, sannse. Tannin

Humm, I've just moved defense (law) to defense (legal) but now I'm not sure. Which is the better title? -- sannse 19:30 16 May 2003 (UTC)

Flip a coin. "Legal", I guess. Tannin

Tails it is then -- sannse

[edit] True or false??

True or false: defense is the American spelling and defence is the Canadian spelling. 66.32.248.34 19:42, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Yes, defence is also the UK spelling, etc. --taestell 04:28, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV: Removed USDoD as euphemism example

Under defense as a politial euphemism for war, somebody had placed "(See United States Department of Defense)" or somesuch. It may have been unintentional, but this would doubtless convey the implication (to some readers) that initiating war is the true purpose of the USDoD.

This is a view worthy of discussion, perhaps, but explicitly and not by implication. --NathanHawking 01:48, 2004 Oct 6 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

Should the redirection not be the other way around? i.e to from defense to defence?

Whilst I understand that defense is a valid ALTERNATE spelling, alternate it is nonetheless. Whilst there may be British/American/Australian English, is English English not the original? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.221.212.66 (talk • contribs • WHOIS) .

I agree that the spelling should be changed from Defense to Defence. Defence more commonly used and defense is only used inside the USA, therefore the article is not reflecting a worldwide view. TKLM 15:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Moved, defence is not a US concept, it has existed well before US english and formation of the USA. Bungalowbill

But with an s is more internationally recognized: Spanish:Defensa, Dutch:Defensie, Portuguese: Defesa. Not to mention American English and Commonwealth derivatives like defensive.Cameron Nedland 13:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)