Talk:Definitions of science fiction
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[edit] Vonnegut quote
I think the Vonnegut quote that was just added is probably not worth keeping; I'd like to hear another opinion before I revert, though. It doesn't define sf at all, nor does it say anything about why it's hard to define. It's simply an aside about the habit of defining sf. I don't think it adds anything, and it seems to expand the boundaries of the quotes included beyond what is useful for the article. Any comments? Mike Christie (talk) 18:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm ambivalent. Vonnegut's quote is not a definition; it speaks to the difficulty of creating a definition, and thus the need for this article. Plus the inherent coolness of quoting Vonnegut in the first place. :) My opinion is not strong enough to revert your edit. Maybe a section on "Problems of definition" is called for (he says, suggesting work for other people....) The Nabokov quote would fit into such a section. Avt tor 22:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Well, how about we wait for that section to be created (he said, dodging the work assignment . . . ) and then revisit it? I agree it's a cool quote, but it doesn't really seem to add anything but atmosphere, and I don't think we have enough article to be atmospheric about yet. Mike Christie (talk) 01:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Avt tor said what I was going to say. Anville 22:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Undated quotes moved to last
It seemed more appropriate to start with Gernsback! --Ant 00:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Blish/Atheling quote
The Blish "a kind of hybrid in which plausibility is specifically invoked" definition is quoted in "Atheling"'s "More Issues at Hand", 1970, per the OED sf website. I don't have my copy with me; can someone with a copy figure out what the publication date was for the original? Thanks. Mike Christie (talk) 06:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ketterer definition
Per this page, the Ketterer quote is from 1974. I don't have a copy so I'm going to change it to be in the dated list but not add a cite to the original source. If someone with a copy could add a cite, that would be great. Mike Christie (talk) 06:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bonnie Kunzel
The Bonnie Kunzel quote was inherited from the discussion of definitions in the science fiction article. However, I'm doubtful as to whether Kunzel is notable enough to include. Anybody else think this could be cut? It's not a particularly insightful addition, and without some notability on Kunzel's part I see no reason to keep it. Mike Christie (talk) 00:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- I have no opinion. Avt tor 22:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
