Talk:Democratic Unionist Party
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The DUP, at this minute, is not the biggest party in Westminister. The UUP is one up.
The DUP is the largest party in Ulster,yet it is the 4th largest party in the United Kingdom. - (Aidan Work 05:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC))
They have 9/10 seats at westminster that were won by any unionist party. 82.163.39.200 15:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Roman Catholics
I would like to see evidence that it has no Roman Catholic members.
- That's kind of a common sense thing. Carolynparrishfan 20:12, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
that is rubbish. I'm from NI. There was never a single catholic in it. 82.163.39.200 15:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
You can't be certain that there are absolutely none The DUP do not allow catholics to join the party but they want htem to vote for them
- As Chairman of the Democratic Unionist Party's Student Association at Queens I can vouch that in the past there have been Catholic members of our association, furthermore there is absolutly nothing in the party rules to say that Roman Catholics or indeed members of any other religion could not join the party. Quarkstorm 13:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Existence of spy ring in Stormont
On Friday [16th December 2005], the Northern Ireland Office said it "completely rejected any allegation that the police operation in October 2002 was for any reason other than to prevent paramilitary intelligence gathering". It said "the fact remains that a huge number of stolen documents were recovered by the police". Police sources earlier reiterated that the "Stormontgate" affair began because "a paramilitary organisation was involved in the systematic gathering of information and targeting or individuals". [1]
So there are still allegations of a republican spy ring operating in Stormont, and you cannot state as fact that MI5 were behind it. Demiurge 13:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Serious editing has been going on
(1) Most of the content of this talk page has been removed
(2) Entire sections of the DUP's history have been deleted, apparently because they cast the party in an unfavourable light. The information on the DUP's connections with paramilitaries are topical as well as encyclopaedic - I'll reinstate them if nobody disagrees ..
[edit] Category:Protestant political parties
would anyone object if I classified this article in the Category:Protestant political parties? -- C mon 07:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
i wouldnt that what it is
[edit] "Consistently devolutionist"
The article claims the DUP is "The only unionist party which has been consistently devolutionist throughout its history". I'm pretty sure the party was founded in October 1971 but Paisley was an "integrationist" in 1972. Taking this into account, is the claim that the DUP has been "consistently devolutionist" true?--Johnbull 19:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for Paisley being an integrationalist in 1972? He opposed the closure of Stormont in the 70's. Quarkstorm 13:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- I have read it here: "Paisley's approach at this stage [1972] was to advocate stern security policies...but instead of calling for the return of Stormont he became an integrationist, one of those rare Unionists who believed a new Stormont would tend to separate Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK. It was an interesting theory but at the time there were few Unionist takers for it, and eventually Paisley would quietly abandon it and return to more familiar ground."--David McKittrick and David McVea, Making Sense of The Troubles (Penguin, 2001), pp. 89-90.--Johnbull 17:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Interesting. He opposed the closure of Stormont before 1972 and by the late 70's. I think he was advocating devolving security to a reconstituted Stormont. I don't think integrationalism was ever a serious policy. The only person who has been consistently integrationalist is Bob McCartney. Quarkstorm 16:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Political position
In the infobox it says right wing, I seem to remember a quote (from the foundation of the DUP?) something along the line that it was to be right wing on constitutional issues, and left wing on social issues. Is this the case? and if so should the infobox be altered to reflect this? 86.12.249.63 09:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Given Jeffrey Donaldson's comments about anti-homophobic laws on Question Time last night and the DUP's more general position on matters like abortion, gay rights and so forth (despite what may be thought by the evangelical Christians who picketted their conference in protest at the DUP not doing enough to stop civil partnerships!) I seriously doubt many would consider the party as "left wing on social issues". What is clearer is that the DUP has an interventionist approach, though political discourse in Northern Ireland is rarely dominated by debates about such matters. Timrollpickering 11:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Category:Protestant political parties
I've included the DUP in the category protestant political parties, because it is included in Paul Freston (2004) Protestant Political Parties Aldershot (Ashgate), pp.47-51. He calls the party the "[b]y far the most important example of a Protestant party in the UK". He cites three reasons: 1) its founders included presbyterian clergymen, like Paisley, 2) it is fiercly anti-catholic on basis of protestant theological views 3) the DUP has its electoral base in evangelical protestantism. I believe these are valid reasons for inclusion. C mon 10:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- No doubt. Could you make a reference to it in the introduction, wherein the (apt) source that you provide could be cited? Then, it would be clear to all readers and editors that the categorisation is justified. Bastin 12:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
