Talk:Demographics of Philadelphia
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I split this article off from the Philadelphia main page. I'm new so please let me know if I overstepped my bounds or did something incorrectly. Thanks! Passdoubt | Talk 07:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Language Map
I hate to be a thorn, but i am going to take issue with one part of your explanation on the language map. For West Philadelphia you state that the reason for the high percentages is because of Subsaharan Africans population in the area. While i don't discount the contributions of persons from that region of the world to the contributions of the stats, i would seriously doubt that they would make up primary reason or soul reason why the percentages are higher as opposed to other parts of the city. Instead i think the the high level in the area corresponds to the student bodies of the three universities located in the area, Penn, Drexel and Sciences. My reasons for this are several. First the area of which their is this rise in the percentage is roughly the boundary of the University City District, discounting the students that live in dorms, a majority of the housing stock in that are is more geared to student housing, and in particular grad housing. These bounds will also come what be similar to those in the children under 5 map, with the only major difference being the western edge, but even still rates in that area still show low rates for children under 5. Also both Drexel and Penn attack a high number of international students, many of which do not come from the English speaking world, as well as having high percentage of Asian/Pacific Islander, and in the case of Penn; Hispanic/Latino, groups in their students bodies, where even if you were to discount for those that re international, it would not be uncommon to find those that come from households that English is not the first language. Well theses are just my thought on the subject. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Keystone Demographics Vandal
Apparently the vandal that i have labled the Keystone Demographics Vandal, now operating under the ip of 72.81.113.25 (talk • contribs), has decided to hit this page with his made up Demographic projections. I have since removed them since the projections divison has not released any such numbers. Edits from similar ips to articles or sections of articles regarding the Demographics of areas in Pennsylvania, should be conidered suspect. For more information see, Talk:Pennsylvania. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 03:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
obvious problem since the article contradicts the main philadelphia article (main article says 40.0% white, dem. article says 45.0% white). which one is correct?
[edit] Race demographic contradiction
obvious problem since the article contradicts the main philadelphia article (main article says 40.0% white, dem. article says 45.0% white). which one is correct?
- simple demographics are easily verified by checking census.gov. This article is correct. The main Philadelphia article is continually edited by people who feel that the statistics don't match their perceptions. Passdoubt | Talk 18:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I believe that the 45% figure referred to a combined white population that includes latino/hispanics who categorize themselves as white(racial self-identification). the 40% figure refers to non-hispanic whites(only one race listed).
There has been some dispute about the US Census Bureau's designation of people who put down two or more racial categories as a separate racial category. For example, individuals who listed black/white combinations averaged 12 to 14 years old. Probably the parents filled out that form item. In 2004, the census bureau went back to those folks with a follow-up survey, they were surprised to find that over 44% of the Black/white(Indian,Asian,etc)listed themselves as Black only, Conversely, Asian/White and American Indian/White designees listed themselves as white only to the tune of 60% to 80% respectively. The two or more races category is fluid to say the least. The Census Bureau includes more that one ancestry designation in its count: for instance, if a person list Italian ancestry as well as Irish ancestry, that person is included in both Italian and Irish population numbers. That would be the only accurate way to compare the 2000 Census racial tabulations with the 1990 Census racial tabulations.
Philly's white ethnic neighborhoods are much smaller than when I was a child. I think Pittsburgh must be the last big central city in America that has a predominantly white ethnic population. I would never have believed that Irish-Americans would no longer be the largest population group in Boston proper, or that Italian-Americans at 21% of South Philly's population would be outnumbered by Black Americans at 33%(at least) of South Philly's 2000 population.
Things have changed demographically for all sorts of reasons.
Rick C
