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[edit] Please read WP:BLP and Wikipedia:Reliable sources
While dead, Johnson and his family have a reasonable expectation that information supplied to his bio be properly sourced and citeable. Poorly sourced information, rumors etc. cannot be used in this or any other bio. Ronbo76 15:25, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
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- 11. Links to blogs and personal webpages, except those written by a recognized authority.
- Today's edit to a blog is hardly that. And, the site has pop-ups which is usually not a sign of a good site. Morenooso 16:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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- It's a blog on the site of The Providence Journal, a reputable news source. Also, I do not get any pop-ups when I go to the site, and I do not have a pop-up blocker enabled...
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- The paper may be reputable. Blogs are not because they are subject to change. I have three Windows programs that monitor pop-ups. The best is Zone Alarms followed by Symantec's Norton with Windows pop-up blocker. When I went to the root site of the Providence Journal, it tried to install something. Prior to that, a site (zedo) set off all the alarms. An authorative site per the WP:EL talkpage is one ala scientific or medical research pages where noted individuals discuss industry trends. I sincerely doubt that a sport reporter's blog on a newspaper qualifies as authorative. Morenooso 16:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Almost every national newspaper has a blog section. Also, by your logic, the ProJo can NEVER be used as a source ever. Kind of sounds foolish. Also, I looked into the WP:EL and saw nothing of what you said about "scientific or medical." In fact, it says this: Avoid: 11. Links to blogs and personal webpages, except those written by a recognized authority. Also, no information contained in this link qualifies as factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research. I believe you are making something out of a non-issue. I was asked to cite my source and I did, end of story. crazyd782
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- Sorry, I should have linked the WP:EL talkpage I mentioned above (Wikipedia talk:External links). I follow the conversations there (like my other Watchpages) and that is where the discussion about the authorative sources has come up. Blogs are everywhere. The problem with blogs is that they can be editted at will and do not have the scrunity as required by Wikipedia:Attribution which states that the "threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is whether material is attributable to a reliable published source." In fact, I now see that the discussion from Wikipedia talk:External links is now incorporated there as WP:SELFPUB where it says: "When a well-known, professional researcher writing within his or her field of expertise has produced self-published material, these may be acceptable as sources, so long as his or her work has been previously published by reliable, third-party publications." The key words are published by reliable third party sources. Wikipedia:Reliable sources defines reliable sources further. An online blog does not qualify as such. Morenooso 19:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Weight Issue
"A weight issue may have been a contributing factor to Johnson's early death" Without an official statement (or even official speculation) from the coroner or Johnson's personal physican, I don't think the above statement should be in the article -- it's just speculation. Readers know there is some correlation between obesity and premature death. Mentioning it here as speculation is disrespetful. 65.24.249.74 19:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
STOP SPREADING LIES ABOUT MY FATHER I am the son of Dennis Johnson. My friends have told me about this lie on Wikipedia. The authorities did not get it right about my father's case. It is one thing to keep this up, but this is completely not acceptable after his death. Please keep it off. Please leave this information alone. No need for this. He was a beloved person and his weight gain was nobodys business. If it needed to come out, smoking was more of a health issue with Dennis than anything else. If you want to do something in his honor, put out your cigarettes and never pick them up again!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.63.113.38 (talk • contribs).
- You'll have to excuse me if I find that just a bit unbelievable. And assuming it's true, than following your advice and removing information from the article would be a gross violation of WP:NPOV.--AgentCDE 21:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Arrest record deletion
An anonymous IP has editted out the section about Johnson's arrest. In its most recent version, it was cited appropriately. Recommend it be re-instated. Ronbo76 13:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Dennis was an awesome player and a great man. There is no need to put accounts on here of an incident from so long ago and one where the charges were dropped.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.63.113.38 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Unfortunately it is public record and was properly cited. That makes it inclusive. Ronbo76 21:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unprotect, resolution proposal
Please un-protect this image. Please see [1] for Jimbo's statement on the outcome (to summarize): The image with watermark shall be deleted. I am proposing that this image be unprotected (on commons), reverted to the unwatermarked version. If Cavic reverts it to the watermarked version, or states otherwise that he wants it deleted, then it should be immediately deleted. In addition, the caption removed completely from the article page. If Cavic restores the caption in any capacity or states otherwise, the image shall immediately be deleted. --MECU≈talk 00:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- {{editprotected}}} If you wish to have the page unprotected, please begin by asking User:John Reaves who made it protected, then make a request at WP:RFPP. CMummert · talk 00:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
