Talk:Dexter (TV series)

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This is taken from a press release, or at least borrows heavily from the article here: [1].—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.92.126.65 (talk • contribs) .

hehe, more or less first edit... Anyways, heres a spoiler for you: Dexter is the opposite of Sinister.... Chew on that one!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.95.48.137 (talk • contribs) .

Interesting. Dexter means "on the right side" whereas sinister means "on the left side". Well, at least as a left-handed person, I know I am not on the wrong side! NorthernThunder 12:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I think the previous picture was better —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.142.25.13 (talk • contribs) .

Contents 1 book 2 Bateman 3 title sequence 4 Merge 5 Vivisection 6 ASPD?

[edit] book

why does the link to the book this series is based on redirect to this page? Whitesanjuro 16:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Um, it doesn't...I just typed "Darkly Dreaming Dexter" into the search bar, and it went straight to the page for the novel. Critterkeeper 05:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Whitesanjuro wrote this last year...I wouldn't be surprised if the article changed by the time you wrote your comment.--CyberGhostface 18:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bateman

Hello im not a very well versed wikipedian and im not sure if this is the correct place to put this ,but should reference be made to the references to the character patrick bateman and bret easton ellis(spelling) be made ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.128.224.167 (talk • contribs) .

...and these references are?--CyberGhostface 04:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

In the episode "Return to Sender," Dexter reveals that he uses the alias "Dr. Patrick Bateman" for buying certain powerful sedatives used in his killing. Patrick Bateman is the name of the main character in Brett Easton Ellis' book, American Psycho (and the movie based on the book).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.106.88.102 (talk • contribs) . That sounds like a great reference to include, probably in the Trivia section rather than a new section. Critterkeeper 06:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] title sequence

It would be good to learn which agency is responsible for the opening title sequence of the series (used in all but the first episode). The main theme is credited to Rolfe Kent, however I have been unable to locate credits for the sequence itself. It is reminiscent of Kyle Cooper's work, or perhaps one of his proteges. EvilNight 16:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

The title sequence was done by Digital Kitchen, which apparently has nothing to do with Kyle Cooper (as far as I could find out). They also made the brilliant opening sequence for Six Feet Under, by the way. :) --Conti|✉ 03:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Heh, that's interesting. Danny Yount is credited with the Six Feet Under sequence. Apparently he is now working for Prologue Films, which is Kyle Cooper's company. Judging by the thank you message on that blog, Kyle gave him a solid recommendation. Looks like they worked together on Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I imagine it's a small world in that particular corner of the graphics design world. EvilNight 03:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Awards section is relatively small. I don't think it deserves its own article. Thoughts?--CyberGhostface 02:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I vote for merging the articles. If the awards section gets too big (as it hopefully does as Dexter rocks ;) we can always split/recreate the awards page/section. Gridwire 11:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I already took care of it. Somnabot 19:07, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vivisection

Perhaps the anonymous user who keeps deleting this word from the article would like to discuss their objections to it here? I think I personally prefer it to 'dissection', since it conveys more accurately and gracefully that Dexter cuts into his victims while they're still alive, and seems to me to have more 'serial killer' associations. (Articles: dissection, vivisection.) --Glump 10:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not the one who made the changes, but I think it's a matter of TV series vs books. In the TV series, it seems like Dexter makes his presentation, makes a cut on the face, collects his blood, and then kills the victim; it's only in the books that there are comments about Dexter delighting in muffled screams or taking off limbs while the victim is still alive. So in an article about the books, "vivisection" would be accurate, although I think "torture" would be moreso, but in an article about the TV series, "dissection" or "postmortem dismemberment" would be more accurate. Critterkeeper 06:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ASPD?

I'm changing the refrence to him appearing to suffer "Antisocial Personality Disorder" to "Schizoid Personality Disorder". The reason for wish: Dexter's behavior does not match up with the Diagnostic criteria for ASPD, which requires at least three of the following:

1)failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest

2)deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure

3)impulsivity or failure to plan ahead

4)irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated fights or assaults (both physically or mentally)

5)reckless disregard for safety of self or others

6)consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations

7)lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

Although Dexter engages in extremely unlawful behavior (1), most of these points do not appear to apply to his character. Dexter is deceitful only insofar as keeping his "work" a secret - aside from lying to protect his image as something other than a serial killer, Dexter does not appear to be particularly deceitful (2) - certainly not for "profit", though arguably for "pleasure" as he does enjoy the experience of putting down other killers. Dexter is certainly not impulsive (3), as he carefully plans nearly everything he does in the series and expresses some discomfort when things don't run as smoothly as he imagined they would. Dexter isn't belligerent, agressive, or prone to anger (4); in fact throughout the duration of watching the program I can't recall a single moment in which he expressed the raw rage that is indicative of this disorder. Dexter, much like is he not impulsive, is also not reckless (5). His work never involved endangering others, and in fact by virtue of his targets he is ultimately ensuring the well-being of would be victims. Dexter is not irresponsible (6), and maintains a steady (not to mention important) occupations as a blood spatter analyst - in most instances Dexter seems to care more about the ramifications of his work (which gives him access to information about local killers) than he does his non-existent social life. The lack of remorse (7), the final point in the criterion, is the other only description that also suits Dexter, as he does not care for those he hurts and shows no distress over the deaths of people he doesn't kill himself, though arguably this point may not even be attributed to Dexter on the grounds that those he inflicts pain upon are not "innocent".

The criteria for Schizoid personality disorder seems much more attributable to Dexter.

1)neither desires nor enjoys close relationships, including being part of a family

2)almost always chooses solitary activities

3)has little, if any, interest in having sexual experiences with another person

4)takes pleasure in few, if any, activities

5)lacks close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives

6)appears indifferent to the praise or criticism of others

7)shows emotional coldness, detachment, or flattened affectivity

Every single one of these points seems to be applicable to him. He stays away from close relationships and has a very distant relationship with his only family, a sister who at one point expresses her unhappiness about the way in which he keeps her in the dark. He prefers to be alone, living an extremely secrertive life and almost never working with another person. He expresses no interest in engaging in sexual activities with his girlfriend (much to her distress) and finds the experience to be extremely awkward when he is finally pressured into doing so. The only activity Dexter seems to take pleasure in his his killing, and regardless of whether or not his co-workers are supportive of his attitude or combatitive, his personality seems to remain the same.

- Xvall

Wow, that's a lot of info. Regardless, it is imperitive to remember that this article is based on a TV series of the fiction genre. Dexter is a ficticious character, and although I am not sure exactly, I imagine the ficticious character in question was characterized as being antisocial rather than schizoid by its creator. Then again, I could be wrong. Somnabot 01:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The books don't give a diagnosis. Dexter mainly refers to himself as a monster. Sounds like the poster is right, and Schizoid Personality Disorder is the more appropriate label for him. I'd say the proposed change is a good one. Critterkeeper 06:20, 28 January 2007 (UTC)