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Contents 1 Copyrighted pictures 2 Flag of Dhaka 3 Suggestion 4 Suggestion 5 Thanks !! 6 Origin of Dhaka 7 Busted Links? 8 Photos 9 Map?? 10 comment from 84.9.46.153 11 Dhaka District? 12 Thanas of Dhaka

[edit] Copyrighted pictures

The pictures Dac5.jpg and others showing a clear copyright tag from webbangladesh.com has been removed. Please do not add copyrighted pictures here. Thanks. --Ragib 03:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Jahangir was not even born in Year 1000.For that matter Mughal empire was not present at that time. I think the year is wrongly mentioned

I don't get your point. Read the article again. It states -

Dhaka's history dates back to the year 1000, but the city achieved glory as the capital of Mughal Bengal. At that time, it was also known as Jahangir Nagar in honor of the Mughal Emperor Jahangir.

Where do you see the assertion that Jahangir/Mughal empire was there at the year 1000? Nowhere!!!!! Thanks. --Ragib 16:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Dhaka

Inclusion of this somewhere? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dhaka_Flag.jpg VarunRajendran

This is the emblem of Dhaka City Corporation. This is NOT a flag of Dhaka city per se. The administrative units in Bangladesh do not have individual flags. Thanks. --Ragib 01:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

Maybe you could include something about the city being one of the largest on Earth and its plans to become 3rd largest city by 2015. Also something about gaining megacity standard and plans for sky-train could be added. You could also add something about the shopping- including Bashundhara City and under-construction Jamuna City.

[edit] Suggestion

Hi! May I suggest to follow the guidelines laid out in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities? I mean the sections. While Dhaka is not an Indian city, the guidelines suggested there in the project page is quite good to follow, as several city articles following that guideline have been improved to Featured Article standard. Of course Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities can be followed. But that is more better for USA cities. A mixture of two projects ate quite welcome. For example, "education" from Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities can be retained. However, Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cities also gives some hints on the content of each section besides laying out the sections. Please decide.

Also, inline citations and references are lacking. If Ragib and others are ok with the proposal, I can move to at least start the sectioning. Content addition won't be possible for me totally though.--Dwaipayan (talk) 10:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks !!

Thanks to whoever has expanded this article! Man, had I been waiting to see the article on the city I love so much to be expanded. I think you can remove all those comments about 'expanded needed' for the article has already been expanded and the expansion has been pretty well done, especially the 2 pics of the skyline were awesome! Now the articles on rest of Bangladesh need to be expaned.

[edit] Origin of Dhaka

So far it seems that the origin of Dhaka is not clear. I have found that there is a clan name Dhaka (clan) in Rajasthan state of India. There are number of Dhaka villages also in Rajasthan. A further research may help to find the origin of Dhaka. burdak 03:43, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I doubt whether there is any link between Dhaka and the Rajasthani clans. These are too historically further apart to be related. Ballal Sena was a Brahmin King, but he or the Sena Dynasty didn't originate from Rajasthan. Of course, proper research is definitely needed. Prof. Muntasir Mamun of Dhaka University has written a book on Dhaka's history ("Kinbodontir Dhaka"), I'll try to get that or other books. --Ragib 03:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Rgib, for your comments and your promptness in correcting me on Promod K Singh's basis of writing on Dhakeshwari temple. My thinking is that during Buddhist period in India many sants had gone to many countries for spread of Buddhism. May be some Dhaka (clan) Buddhist start this temple. You will find that people from Afghanistan in ancient periods used to establish habitation in a new place with same old name. This is one possibility. Further research may lead to some new facts. burdak 15:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

On a related (slightly) topic, I see this sentence in the History section: "Dhaka and its surrounding area was identified as Bengalla around that period." As I recall from RC Majumdar's history of Bengal, Bangala (note the difference in spelling) was much larger than that, and not centered on Dhaka. PiCo 09:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Busted Links?

Why are there so many links to "Main Articles" that do not actually exist? SmartGuy 19:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

That's because links are created to make way for storing details about each sections. We expect the sections in this article to be summaries. It doesn't hurt to take a top-down approach ... i.e. add those links and later go on creating the pages. --Ragib 20:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

Have uploaded 2 new photos. How do you add it to this article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dhakaiya (talk • contribs).

• Use something like this: [[Image:DhakaCity.jpg|thumb|right|A picture of Dhaka]] . See WP:Images. Kappa 12:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Also will be editing Bangladesh and economy of Bangladesh. We do not want to stay behind India or Pakistan. I believe my country is one of the best in South Asia. God bless all patriots. -Dhakaiya

Please be careful in making edits to Bangladesh, a featured article. If you want to make drastic changes, please discuss them in the talk page. Also keep in mind that the article is supposed to be in summary form, with details going to particular articles. For example, rather than adding content to the economy section, it makes sense to add them to the Economy of Bangladesh article, and summarizing that in the economy section. Thanks for the photos, and please feel free to contact me with any questions. --Ragib 17:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

This article is goog enough to be a featured article or at least a 'good article'. (Ahnaf 12:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Map??

Why did someone add the bangladesh map in Dhaka page? why whole of bangladesh? why not a map of Dhaka. doesn't make sense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.1.144.117 (talk • contribs).

It makes perfect sense as to show the location of the city in Bangladesh. --Ragib 22:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah but it will look better without the other Bangladesh City names on it. for example see Mumbai and Kolkata page.

[edit] comment from 84.9.46.153

Please provide specific references for the assertaions made. I am asking for citations. As far as I'm aware Dhaka does not decide the culture, language and politics for the rest of Bangladesh. Sylhet and Habigonj, for example, are distinct. In addition, Sylhet region generally is an economic powerhouse due to expat earnings and natural gas/coal and many sylhetis (esp. those with relatives abroad) enjoy a higher per capita income than the emerging Dhakaiya middleclasses (£1=138.50 taka). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.9.46.153 (talk • contribs).

Please stop adding fake cn tags when there are references right next to each of the sentences. Thank you. --Ragib 01:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

There are no references next to the sentences that I can see. 'As the most populous city of the nation, life in Dhaka exemplifies Bangladeshi culture'.

No , it doesn't. Ppl in Dhaka speak Dhakaiya for a start! In Sylhet we have our own language, so this is not true. Bangladesh has varied and diverse cultures and Dhaka doesn't exemplify this.

Ragib, I'm glad that you have changed the economy section, which was making unfounded and grandiose statements about Dhaka's economy. Why didn't you notice this before? Are you from Dhaka? Yet you seem to immediately want to change posts on on the entries eg. Sylhet and Drishtifart, which I am interested in. I think it is time we had a Sylheti mod. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.74.40.40 (talk • contribs).

Please refrain from making comments on other editors. See No personal attack policy. Thank you. --Ragib 13:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid that this article is biased, with many Dhakaiya posters making exaggerated claims. For instance, PLEASE POINT ME TO THE EXACT INTERNET SITE WHICH CLAIMS THAT DHAKAIYAS HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER INCOME THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY OR THAT DHAKA IS CENTRAL TO BANGLADESHI CULTURE OR POLITICS????

If you can't prove something then don't include it in this article.

As for attacks, you are a Dhakaiya, so I'm not attacking you. Just as you can call me a Sylheti, without my feeling put down. That isn't a personal attack.

You are forgetting Sylhet, Chittagong, Khulna etc are just regional cities while Dhaka is the political, economic and cultural capital of our beloved Bangladesh. (I personally came from a small district of eastern Bengal, but I feel it great to attach my emotions and belongingness to Dhaka. Because it is the best city of our country.)

As every British love London, every American New York, every Indian Delhi,similerly, every Bangladeshi should be attached highly to the glory of Dhaka. Or else your patriotism may be questioned.

Please remember 90% of Dhaka dwellers are not indegeneous Dhakaias, they are from Comilla, Rangpur, Chittagong, Barisal, Jessore or Sylhet( like you).Thats the beauty of any Metropolitan City and Dhaka is the only metropolice in BD. I presume you understand this.Al-minar 06:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think we should over-emphasise Dhaka's importance. It is a cultural centre, true, but it has its limitations. Also, Bangladeshi is not a culture. Bengali is linked to a culture and in that aspect, Kolkata also influences the culture significantly. So, one shouldn't say Dhaka portrays Bangladeshi culture, because the same statement holds true for every small village in Bengal. They all portray the culture in a collective fashion. It is, however, fair to say, "Dhaka offers a very good sample of the regional cultures due to its cosmopolitan population composition." Those are my two cents and please stop arguing on regional grounds. We cannot specifically have exactly 64 mods. We need to learn to think with our heads and not our hearts :). 64.194.250.99 22:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dhaka District?

Dhaka is a district. Why does the first line say Dhaka is the capital of Dhaka District. Dhaka is not a thana. It's a district. Dhaka district article should be removed and linked to this page. Anyone agrees?

64.194.250.99 22:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

In case you haven't noticed, "Dhaka" IS a city in the Dhaka District, in the Dhaka Division. There is separate articles for each of those entities. But *this* article is about the city. For other such examples, see Kolkata, London etc. Thanks. --Ragib 22:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but Dhaka District IS Dhaka City. There is no conception of a Greater Dhaka District like there is for Greater London. OK, just to be clear, what part of Dhaka District is NOT in Dhaka City? Are you referring to the non-metropolitan area? Also, even if you are referring to Dhaka Metropolitan area as Dhaka City, this is NOT the capital of Dhaka District like the first line implies. 64.194.250.99 22:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I think you need to get your facts right and look into a map of the Dhaka District. A large part of the district is NOT under the city. For example, Dhamrai upazila, Dohar upazila, Keraniganj upazila, Nawabganj upazila and Savar upazila are in the Dhaka district, but not part of the Dhaka city. Those are not considered "thana"s like "Dhanmondi Thana". For the first sentence, it did look ambiguous, so I reworded it as "capital of Bangladesh and main city of the Dhaka District". Other than that, your other points do not apply as the district is much larger, and also has more areas that are not part of any city. Thanks. --Ragib 22:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the first sentence. OK, so you were referring to Dhaka Metropolitan Area or Dhaka Municipal Zone (under the City Corporation) as Dhaka City. I still think that it's ambiguous to create an impression that Dhaka District has a bunch of cities and Dhaka city is one of them, because similar scenario does not apply in general to all other districts. The upazilas never materialised into anything concrete. So, for now it seems the administrative divisions works like Division > District > Thana. Some district headquarters have evolved into metropolitan areas or city corporations, but I'm not sure how far this impacts administrative management. If we are making a distinction, shouldn't the same consistently be applied to Chittagong, Khulna and Rajshahi? 64.194.250.99 16:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Organizationally, geographically, and officially,(i.e. for all conceivable purposes), the city and the district are completely separate entities. Yes, the impression you mentioned is correct. Dhaka district does have some cities (official municipal areas), of which Dhaka is one. The same does apply to all other districts ... i.e. we have separate articles for distinct entities (city vs. administrative district). Upazilas have materialized, though whenever a govt change happens, they get renamed. The Thana-outside-metropolitan-areas are actually upazilas (during Ershad and Hasina govts), and are only called Thanas (during BNP rule). Still, the administration of a city/municipal area is completely different from that of a district/thana/upazila (the latter has administrative officers, diff. administration/jurisdiction). Finally, we ARE being quite consistent here with all other cities/districts (see Chittagong, Rajshahi, Khulna). Thank you. --Ragib 21:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanas of Dhaka

The list of thanas on the article seem to be quite dated. I already have left a note to Usingha's talk page to that end (check it out) when he was trying to come up with a labelled map for Dhaka thanas. May this part needs a bit updating, citations and cleaning up. Cheers. Aditya Kabir 14:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)