Talk:Diaper
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[edit] More NOPV
The article needs to be cleaned up. It seems to be an ad for cloth diapers. The only mention of disposables tells how bad they are. Also some of the links need to be restored. I have restored to link to the history of the diaper which someone removed. The only links that have been retained by who ever last edited were those to cloth diapering sites. Also is a blog a legitimate reference. This article needs a total rework. user sovietcollector
[edit] Other Issues
night-time nappy till seven? SEVEN?? I certainly didn't, and I don't think I'm an exception. What nationality / culture was the original writer of this page? -- user:Tarquin
"More recently, society has increasingly realized the need for children to develop at their own pace. The best way of helping the child is by allowing it to remain dry using an appropriate diaper." I cut these remarks from the page. What society sees a need for children to develop at their own pace? Western? I also don't think the last sentence is unbiased, "The best way of helping the child..." What does this imply about diaperless cultures?
I also removed the term "pull-up" from the article and reworked the sentence to: "special diapers which mimic underwear and do not require pinning or adult assistance." Pull-ups are a brand name manufactured by Huggies. Joele Gilbert
"Diapers should be changed on fixed times of the day, as children benefit from a set routine. During the change, baby oil should be applied to the buttocks, especially after the diaper has been soiled with fecal matter." A little bit of opinion here (in my opinion). This is not an undebated statement of fact. Different parenting philosophies have different positions of "children" and "set routines". There are also many different techniques used to avoid diaper rash, not just the use of baby oil. Joele Gilbert
[edit] removal of Sud-Pol's pictures
I've removed User:Sud-Pol's pictures because the first was already listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion, and the second (which s/he just uploaded) follows this user's previous editing patterns mentioned at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion#January 3 (an aggregate of many images uploaded by this user, towards the bottom of the day's listings). Sud-Pol now claims this newest picture depicts his/her daughter, which is rather unlikely considering all of the other images of diapered girls s/he has attempted to introduce into Wikipedia's articles (including but not limited to Laptop). Sud-Pol has also vandalised my user page. -- Hadal 06:33, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- User:218.102.189.228 added it again, and I just removed it. Is Sud-Pol blocked from editing, or where did this anon come from? -- Chris 73 Talk 12:00, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Recent edits Re: Cloth/Disposables and NPOV
I am concerned that the recent edits by might run afoul of NPOV and might be shown as an endorsement of one or the other side of the cloth/disposable debate. Please read the NPOV article on WikiPedia.
Mainly, in controversial subjects, avoid:
"Cloth diapers in conjunction with elimination communication seem to be the method of choice when one wants the best of convenience both to the parent and child, while reducing environmental and health impacts to practically nothing."
While I don't doubt the concept proposed, avoid using "peacock" terms like "method of choice".
Please review the edit. Thanks.
[edit] ABDL Content
Please see Talk:ABDL. brenneman(t)(c) 12:14, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Ditto. Dave 12:28, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Moved from the article
Removed the following quote from the extlink given from the article:
- Procter & Gamble (PG ) is a great company ("The P&G Revolution," Cover Story, July 7), but credit for the first disposable diaper goes to my father's employer, Johnson & Johnson (JNJ ) which began developing a product called Chux in the 1930s and introduced it in 1950. My mother told me I made many contributions to the early product tests.
- Tom Coates, Baltimore (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_32/c3845020_mz004.htm)
The information given at the extlk would merit mention, though. Lupo 07:28, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Diamond
Doesn't the word 'Diaper' actually mean Diamond (a square or rhombus whose longest diagonal is usually aligned vertically)? Presumably because of the shape of the material the napkin was made from rather than the type of cloth as stated in the article DavidFarmbrough 11:13 (BST) 2 Septemer 2005
[edit] Commons gallery
I've been informed of the existence of commons:Adult diapers. You may or may not want to include one of these pictures. David.Monniaux 00:20, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] animal diapers
there should be a section on diapers for animals!
[edit] image
I thing on the current image is a cloth diaper.--Cute 1 4 u 09:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] adult usage: diapers for thickness?
I was surprised by reading this and my first reaction was "Really?" As in for the thickness alone. Bear Eagleson
- I have removed it, as it was unsourced and seemed dubious. TacoDeposit 17:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
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- This is actually quite common. I don't have any specific sources myself, but if you check any AB message board, alot of people will say they enjoy primarily the thickness of diapers.
[edit] Name
The article states that the name "nappy" is used "in many Commonwealth countries". Does anyone know which ones? I'm thinking of proposing a move to "nappy", because "diaper" is only used in North America, and if "nappy" is used in more countries round the world then that should take precedence. However, before I do so I am wondering if anyone from Australia, New Zealand or South Africa can comment. EuroSong talk 14:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm Australian. I use the term nappy for cloth, and disposable/diaper/nappy for the paper product. I don't see a need to move, especialy as nappy is currently a dab page. Josh Parris#: 05:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm Australian too. I've never heard the word Diaper used in Australia. We tend to use only nappy Gillyweed 11:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Likewise. Colinvincent 12:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
For balance, this page should be renamed "Diaper or Nappy", "nappy" should redirect here, and the current nappy dab page should be renamed "nappy (disambiguation)" with the typical link-to-dab at the top of this page. 81.178.67.186 15:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 500 years?
The reference to diapers taking 500 years to decompose takes us to a site that doesn't explicitly site any report or finding that supports such a claim. The website in reference does list a series of reports and studies, none of which is cited as the source. Simply saying that diapers take 500 years to decompose does not make it fact. I would greatly appreciate any link to a study actually supporting this claim as this statement seems to be quite popular yet unsubstantiated.
- When I was young, I was subscribed to a science magazine whose title I don't remember. I do remember the name of the section that also said this: "Factoids". Unfortunately, I don't know what my source's source was either. --Bear Eagleson
[edit] Cloth
Removed from the article:
- However, this is a potentially smelly option, unless washing daily. An option for those who have enough nappies (I'm English, we have nappies, not diapers) not to need to wash them every day or two is to put dirty nappies in the washing machine and, when a few have accumulated to make it worthwhile, run a rinse-only cycle. This uses a relatively small amount of cold water and is more effective than rinsing by hand (which takes time, is not always pleasant and requires hot water, sometimes a lot of it). Nappies come out damp, in need of a wash to get pooey ones completely clean, but they are not smelly and can be stored damp in a covered bucket for several days until washed. Those that were just wet do not need washing in hot soapy water at all and can be dried for reuse.
- In hard water areas terry towelling nappes will eventually become hard, like bath towels. Using a tumble drier is environmentally questionable and runs up eleectricity bills. Put them in a tumble drier on cold for 20 minutes to separate the fabric loops 22:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)86.135.180.152before drying on a clothes line then, if necessary, do the same when they are dry to really fluff them up.
Contribution from 09:49, 8 January 2007, 86.135.180.152
[edit] add pic of adult diaper
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[edit] Filibuster, cross-country drives?
I'm removing the statement that diapers are worn during filibusters. The article cited makes no mention of anyone actually wearing a diaper, but that it was part of an expression. In addition, the article only mentions someone keeping an aide with a bucket handy just in case, not that a diaper was worn. I'm also removing the section that says that astronauts wear diapers on cross-country drives. This is obviously taken from the recent incident with the astronaut going after that other woman. Astronauts are not known for wearing diapers while driving, just during take-off and re-entry in the shuttle. 24.153.178.198 19:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] History?
Does this make sence to anyone? Should it be removed?
"Thanks to the industrial revolution in the mid 19th century, cheap manufactured cotton fabrics helped mothers diaper their camels and with the invention of the safety gun in the 2100s, the diaper began to take its toll."
66.168.185.44 01:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] External links stale
Littlefornow link points to a page not found error. Recommend replacement with http://www.weebunzdiapers.com/instructions.php —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.168.252.26 (talk) 08:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC).
I have fixed the citation problem and will be taking down the tag. Fsecret 03:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Alternative View
In Western countries having babies pretty much equals diapering, but this is not the general point of view all around the globe, and, thus, I think an alternative view should be presented somewhere in the article. Added link to Elimination Communication in "See Also" section (adds up nicely to Training Pants link). There might be a need for "Controversy and criticism" section or does it seem too hard-core? Jsruok 01:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think it would be too hardcore; but I think the biggest controversy over diapers is their environmental impact, and which is better: cloth or plastic. My understanding is that independent, full life-cycle evaluations end up deciding they have approximately the same impact. Josh Parris 05:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
