Talk:Die Toten Hosen
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[edit] Bird
Does anyone know what the bird in the Die Toten Hosen Logo is a reference to? Example here: http://www.platten-galerie.de/gifs/totehosen.jpg. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 04:43, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
- See Bundesadler. It's their version of the German coat of arms. :-) --Conti|✉ 13:56, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the info. I hate to sound ignorant, but does the Bundesadler have any sort of historical connection with the third reich or the nazi party in any way? Did they use a version of the Bundesadler? --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 15:43, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
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- Hmm, according to the German article about the Adler, it was used since the German Empire in various forms. The NSDAP used it as well, with a swatiska under it. There's even a picture of it on the NSDAP article. :-) The current version of the coat of arms exists since 1950. --Conti|✉ 15:10, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)
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- Danke. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 18:37, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)
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omfg, no it's not a Nazi-Bundesadler. and not all Germans are Nazis...
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- Hallo, i'm from Germany and i am a big fan many years! This is not the Bundesadler! This is a Rebel Symbol by the Toten Hosen! The Original Bundesadler had not Bones :-)and the Original Bundesadler is not a Nazi Symbol, its the Icon from Germany! Sorry for my poor english, but this must i say :-)
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- Germany has, as many European Countries, think of Poland or Austria, or elsewhere, think USA, an Eagle as a national symbol, by now for centuries. So in this way the Nazi-Adler with Swastika and the Bundesadler are indirectly related, because both draw from the German tradition of using an eagle in the nation's coats of arms. But the Bundesadler is not used "because of", but "although" it has been used in the Third Reich. And of course, the Tote Hosen eagle as such is spoofing this very symbolism, so you can say, that this is the Bundesadler "revisited". Ulkomaalainen 17:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Ein kleines bisschen Horrorshow
" In 1988, Die Toten Hosen released the LP "Ein kleines bisschen Horrorschau", concurrent with the German theatrical production of A Clockwork Orange based on the book by Anthony Burgess."
Not actually right... the theater production was in the early 90's, so the LP was a tribute to the film A Clockwork Orange, which is very famous in the german punk scene (sebb)
[edit] Other successful acts
I very much think that some people just want to promote their favourite band. While Rammstein and Fettes Brot are both renowned and have occasional commercial successes to make their living, neither of them has been around for "decades".
Fettes Brot have been formed in 1992. Their first major success was not until 1995 ("Nordisch by nature", still their best known song), so we're talking eleven years here. What's more, they have been hidden in obscurity from 1997 to at least 2001, still making music but not selling much. This certainly does not constitute "decades of success".
Rammstein was formed even later (1994), and while they have a constant success and are afaik the best selling German language act to date, 12 years are not "decades" as well.
With these definitions, especially applying the standards used with Fettes Brot, the list could be made way longer, especially since it totally omits acts targeted at an older audience and acts of German folk music - as intolerable as that music may be, they sell like hell.
I would vote vote for omitting at least those two groups, if not the whole paragraph Ulkomaalainen 10:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "References" section
What's the meaning of the title? ChKa 22:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
