Talk:Domingo Faustino Sarmiento

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I do not consider that this page is impartial. The article contains only the official version of events. Not once does the article take in consideration what the new historians, and previous revisionist historians say about Sarmiento's life and actions.

The article does not mention the facts that: Sarmiento was a very unpopular president. Sarmiento ordered to do a massive killing of the gaucho class, black race, and native people for considering them 'unfit to be part of the Argentina that he wanted to create' Sarmiento often lied in his public speeches, to back his actions, even if he had no fundaments.

Nobody is denying that he founded many schools, but the above facts are true, are also documented and hae been proven, and are not mentioned. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lucasliso (talk • contribs).

The so called “revisionist” version, is a not only biased but also militant version, despite being in certain ways the current official version.

Criticism against Sarmiento is welcome in the article, but not in the shape of pseudo historical points of view.

It’s not a fact that “Sarmiento was a very unpopular president”, that’s, besides false, a POV. It’s also false that he ordered any “massive killing”. His works do have many contradictory statements, but his “Conflicto y armonías de las razas en América” shows that he was not any kind of racist.

The paragraph that one user has been trying to impose by repetition ad nauseam said that Sarmiento was “harsh towards the lower class of Argentina”, which is very strange considering that he belonged to a “low class”, he was never rich and didn’t leave any fortune. He fought against poverty and his educational politics targeted the “lower class”, since he focused on public free basic education.

But the most bizarre statement in that paragraph is: “He would use every resource that was in his reach to exterminate them (i.e. the gauchos), often accusing them with false charges and then executing them.” Please mention a gaucho that was “accused with a false charge” and then executed by Sarmiento. And demonstrate that the adverb “often” also applies. --Filius Rosadis 13:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

It is true that Sarmiento's view of the Gaucho was far from positive. The original quote seams to be either "Hay que regar el suelo argentino con sangre de gaucho, que es lo único humano que tienen" ("We need to water the Pampas with Gauchos' blood, that's the only human thing they have") or "No economice sangre de gaucho que para lo único que sirve es para regar la tierra" ("Don't spare Gaucho blood, for all it's worthy for is watering the soil"). In spite of this, some historians claim he wrote that in a letter while furious, and that he referref to the Gauchos of a certain region. Nevertheless, it is clear that Sarmiento's ideas of Europeization didn't care much about the gaucho. Mariano(t/c) 13:59, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Sarmiento was quite a choleric character, that’s why he was contradictory so many times. But (1) gauchos is not the same as “lower class”; and (2) he did care about the gaucho in many of his writings (including “Recuerdos de Provincia”, and even “Facundo”, where he writes with admiration about several typically Gaucho characters, a fact that “historians” like J.M. Rosa chose to ignore). Europeization was a cultural project that didn’t involve extermination, but education and development. It was a synonym of “progress” in Sarmiento’s lexicon. --Filius Rosadis 14:08, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sarmiento as President

It should also be noted that later in his life, Sarmiento confesed that when he was elected president, he commited fraud in the elections in order to win.

Historians like Felipe Pigna have also confirmed this.