Talk:Downtempo

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[edit] Lobo Halcyon link

To note: the Lobo Halcyon link is an artist link, not a genre link, and has been removed. --JB Adder | [[User talk:Jb-adder|Talk]] 11:15, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] spam link?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Downtempo&diff=45830366&oldid=45704191

I removed the link to "Digital Samsara", as I think that a band that has only been active since 2005 should not be mentioned as "important" (compared to K&D and Thievery Corp), especially as they seem to be performing only on a national level (you can see this on their flash-bloated website)

I'm open for counter-arguments, though :)

(btw ... having typos in edits mentioning quite unknown (?) names is not really a good start IMHO ...)

-fin 08:49, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

The external links currently within this article are ALL to be considered spam and should be avoided as per Wikipedia External Links Polic. None of the below sites provide any reference nor encyclopedic material relevant to the topic of Downtempo music. Radio stations and sites that promote and sell relevant music are specifically to be avoided from listing. Please stop fighting this typical war, and instead read the policy referenced above. -asmadeus 22:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• calmscape.com - Web radio station. Includes reviews for artists and releases promoting the content. Also can be classified as a blog. Includes a music shop.
• groovera.com - Web radio station. Not a single article relevant to the style.
• properlychilled.com - community, blog, and a store

Asmadeus, your opinions of these External Links is not true nor are THEY encyclopedic. Furthermore, there is no "topical war" (correcting your misnomer "typical") and reverting vandalism by an IP address that DID INDEED spam the article previously does not denote a "war". So why are you trying to start one?

First, your statement that none of these these links provide any encyclopedic material is false. All three of the linked sites are DEDICATED TO DOWNTEMPO music and if you truly knew the FIRST THING about downtempo music - or even truly CARED about it - you would have immediately recognized the relevance of these links from your own personal experience with them. As far as the "radio stations" go, how would we be better off leaving examples of downtempo music up to the uninformed imagination? And furthermore, how could someone who has never contributed ONE IOTA to this article suppose that this Wikipedia article is the authoritative source for information on this musical style and that these websites have no value in helping to define what downtempo music IS?

I appreciate that you have made considerable contribution elsewhere in Wikipedia and I recommend that you STICK WITH WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT. --Qazjaz 01:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Please maintain a cool-head and be civil in your comments on Wikipedia. It might be wise for any editor with any doubts about spam links to study Wikipedia:Spam which is policy and not optional. It's not a matter of who knows what about a particular genre of music. If you find a good quote within an article then cite it, and reference it in the style/s seen all over Wikipedia. In short do not add a link becasue it happens to be a good radio station in your opinion, that plays Downtempo. Regards. Escaper7 10:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the above comment. All opinions belong on the Talk page. Sites dedicated to a topic does not mean that they belong in the encyclopedic article. That's what Google is for. Searching for "downtempo radio" should be sufficient to bring up the above referenced sites (groovera.com appears as the fourth result). If you want to provide examples of downtempo sound, create samples and upload them to commons, as all the other music styles do (see Drum and Bass). Your response is exactly what I was trying to avoid, and referencing to the 'typical' war included months of reverts and changes with only the above links. As far as for my 'credibility' - I am a Record Label DJ for Native State Records - Bluetech, Shulman, etc - so yes, I do have plenty of experience in the style. -asmadeus 14:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, as you can see from my recent edits, I have contributed to the article now, most heavily than others by now, while properly referencing and citing all sources. I have also tried to bring back the links I removed by finding content within the sites that was relevant to be cited within the article. Calmscape contained some unique and exclusive artist interviews, but none of the artists were notable by Wikipedia standards (i.e. could not even find entries on them within Wikipedia). I can also claim Groovera.com to be completely a SPAM link, since it attributes rights to Qaz Media, LLC. Hmmm... What a coincidence, Mr. Qazjaz... -asmadeus