Talk:Duck test
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no mention of monty python and the holy grail? Dsol 03:41, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- If everyone got to add their favorite example of how to tell if something is a duck, how long would this page be? --Mgreenbe 14:45, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Richard Patterson
Link on "Richard Patterson" is apparently for a different guy of the same name. Not sure if the one cited here merits his own article, or if the link should just be removed. 71.246.221.16 05:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Turing Test?
Is there any relationship to the Turing Test? Seems to me that the Turing Test is applying the Duck Test to consciousness. --Andrew Eisenberg 15:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- No. I don't think so, but maybe I just didn't read far enough down. Cut and paste applicable info here, for those who are not interested much in computer intellegence (me).Travb 22:30, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I noticed that you removed the link to the Turing Test. I think the Turing test is a form of duck test.
The duck test is a specific form of inductive reasoning whereby one can infer the nature of an unknown based upon its outwardly visible traits.
The Turing test is a proposal for a test of a machine's capability to perform human-like conversation.
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- Essentially, the Turing Test is used to determine if a computer can "think" or is "intelligent" by looking at external characteristics (ie- communication using words). Perhaps the article's first sentence doesn't describe the test correctly by only mentioning conversation.Andrew Eisenberg 02:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Power to ya. I will add it back. No big deal. Travb (talk) 02:50, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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The Turing test tests whether a computer algorithm can imitate human conversation -- not whether can "think". "Asking whether a computer can think is like asking whether a submarine can swim" -- Dijkstra. The Turing test challenges the contrapositive of the duck test. The duck test says: "if it talks like a duck, it is a duck." To pass the duck test means the statement is true, i.e. the bird really is a duck. To pass the Turing test means to contradict the statement: "if it is not a human, it does not talk like a human", i.e. the thing talking is actually not a human. —Quarl (talk) 2006-08-26 08:58Z
[edit] Concept discouraged?
This concept seems a bit to me like 'judging a book by its cover.' -- Denelson83 07:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Monty Python
I don't really think the duck thing in Holy Grail was related to this duck test; that was a quite different convoluted piece of sillyness.--jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 19:23, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Remove it to talk, WP:BB, if you don't think it has anything to do with the Duck Test, here let me do it for you:
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- Monty Python lampooned the "duck test" in their film Monty Python and the Holy Grail in order to show that faulty conclusions can be reached by this type of backwards reasoning. In the film, a woman is accused of being a witch. Since witches are burned at the stake, they must be made of wood, since it burns as well. Wood floats on water, as do ducks. Therefore, if the woman weighs the same as a duck, she must be able to float on water, which means she is made of wood, and consequently must be a witch.
- Travb (talk) 04:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] War paragraph
While reading this article I got really confused when it suddenly went rambling on about a war without making clear what the relevance to this article is. This could be improved upon... 145.48.211.205 14:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
