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Contents 1 Major Project 1.1 <<<<< Ilfracombe Branch Line >>>>> 1.2 Plan of Action 1.3 Links needed 1.4 Subsections 1.4.1 1. Intro 1.4.2 2. History 1.4.3 3. Stations 1.4.3.1 Barnstaple Junction station 1.4.3.2 Barnstaple Quay station 1.4.3.3 Barnstaple Town station 1.4.3.4 Wrafton station 1.4.3.5 Braunton station 1.4.3.6 Mortehoe and Woolacombe station 1.4.3.7 Ilfracombe station 1.4.4 4. Locomotives 1.4.5 5. Walking the line 1.4.6 6. References 2 Project: Steam Categories 2.1 Wikimedia Commons sources 2.2 Category:Steam technology 2.2.1 Further research 2.2.2 Hierarchy 2.2.3 Article categorising 2.2.4 Notes 3 Project: History of the Traction Engine 3.1 Source material 3.2 Timelines 4 Minor Projects 4.1 Traction engine 4.2 Steam tractor 4.3 Road roller 4.4 Steamroller 4.4.1 Tasks 4.4.2 History of road construction techniques 4.4.3 Add info: 4.4.4 Influence on English language 4.4.4.1 'Disambiguation' - what's the meaning of steamroller? 5 References 6 Non-Project 6.1 CFR Talk page rationalisation?

[edit] Major Project

[edit] <<<<< Ilfracombe Branch Line >>>>>

• Well under way now.
• Still need to work through the two books and add details.
• Perhaps need a more co-ordinated approach?

[edit] Plan of Action

1. Fix links in Barnstaple
2. Check out WP:TRAINS and the trains portal
3. Fix links in Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
4. Fix Ilfracombe links...
   (change to Ilfracombe railway station or Ilfracombe Branch Line):
   1. <Add here>
5. Add Station stubs with basic info and categories:
   1. Ilfracombe railway station
   2. Braunton railway station
   3. Wrafton railway station
6. Add route table and link to/from village/town page, per station:
   1. Ilfracombe railway station
   2. Mortehoe and Woolacombe railway station
   3. Braunton railway station
   4. Wrafton railway station
   5. Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
7. Wikify book references
8. Need to create (and link) Devon Belle article
9. Search for other pages that quote Atlantic Coast Express?
10. Add more details for locos
11. Inrease detail on own page, summarise and cross link from Branch page, per station:
    1. Ilfracombe railway station
    2. Mortehoe and Woolacombe railway station
    3. Braunton railway station
    4. Wrafton railway station
    5. Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
12. ...everything else...

[edit] Links needed

• Barnstaple
• Barnstaple stations
• Mortehoe
• Woolacombe

Which station would have served Lee?

• Lee, Devon - (near Ilfracombe) currently a very small stub!
• Lee Bay - currently a very small stub! Is this the same place?

• Check pages that link to Barnstaple
• Check pages that link to Ilfracombe

[edit] Subsections

[edit] 1. Intro

• Need a quick description of the line
• Not very happy with it at present!

[edit] 2. History

• Currently goes from birth to death with little in between
• Nothing about construction or geology of area

[edit] 3. Stations

• Need to completely revise coverage: need summary of stations (poss in a box?) and move details to the individual stations
• Check out Sub-britannia for details and pictures of all the stations on the line!

[edit] Barnstaple Junction station

• Provide adequate summary
• move details to individual station page

[edit] Barnstaple Quay station

• Provide adequate summary
• move details to individual station page

[edit] Barnstaple Town station

• Provide adequate summary
• move details to individual station page

[edit] Wrafton station

• Provide adequate summary
• move details to individual station page

• Wrafton itself needs a stub created!

[edit] Braunton station

• Provide adequate summary
• move details to individual station page

[edit] Mortehoe and Woolacombe station

• Provide adequate summary
• move details to individual station page

[edit] Ilfracombe station

• Provide adequate summary
• move details to individual station page

• Some links to the branch line would be better pointing to this page.
• Probably should provide reference from the Ilfracombe page too.

[edit] 4. Locomotives

• Just notes at present

[edit] 5. Walking the line

• Need better coverage of line between Barnstaple and Woolacombe

[edit] 6. References

• Need formatting per Wiki policy DONE

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[edit] Project: Steam Categories

[edit] Wikimedia Commons sources

Useful pages from Wikimedia Commons:

• [Steam road vehicles] - includes steam roller component pictures!
• [Steam Machinery]
• [Cat - Steam engines]
• [Cat - Boilers]
• [Cat - Steam vehicles]

• [Cat - agricultural machines] - includes pics of a thresher and a reaper

[edit] Category:Steam technology

Aim is to gather all articles about steam engines and steam-powered stuff into a coordinated hierarchy of categories. This is where it will be worked out, before going 'live'.

[edit] Further research

• User:Sfsorrow2 has applied many (useful) changes to Steam shovel.
  His other contributions may cover more steam-related equipment not yet encountered (eg Dragsaw). Well worth a look.

[edit] Hierarchy

Category:Steam technology "This category includes articles relating to the use of steam as a prime mover."

Should reside under one of main categories (under Category:Technology): Category:Energy (most likely) (or 'transport' or 'engines'); and Category:Mechanical engineering

• Category:Steam engines
  • Category:Steam engine manufacturers
  • Category:Steam engine technologies
  • Category:Steam engine types

• Category:History of steam technology
  • Category:Pioneers of steam technology
    • Idea is to gather people who have contributed to the development of the steam engine (or locomotive)
    • Fits nicely with the others in Category:Pioneers by field

• Category:Preserved steam
  • Category:Preserved British steam locomotives – also 'Steam locomotives', below
  • Category:Steam festivals
  • Category:Railway museums
    • Category:Railway museums in the United Kingdom
    • List of railway museums in the United Kingdom
    • Category:Heritage railways
      • Category:Heritage railways in the United Kingdom

• Category:Steam machines
  • needs to cover machines not covered elsewhere!

• Category:Steam-powered pumping stations
  • not sure about this one - is already covered by a more useful list under pumping station
  • might be better to include a new cat for Category:Pumping stations?

• Category:Steam vehicles
• Add to Category:Green vehicles
  • Category:Steam aircraft
  • Category:Steam automobiles
  • Category:Steam locomotives
    • Category:Preserved British steam locomotives – also, see 'Preserved Steam', above
    • Category:Steam locomotive technologies
    • ...and, by association, all the other sub-cats
  • Category:Steam boats
    • Category:Steamships
    • Category:Paddle steamers
  • Category:Steam vehicle manufacturers

• Category:Steam transport
  • potential overlap with steam vehicles, but vehicles to go in there first

• Category:Steam in fiction

• Category:Mis-named steam things
  • ie things that are called steam but have nothing to do with hot water!
  • Might be better as a cohesive article than a category

[edit] Article categorising

Category:Steam technology

• List of steam energy topics
• Boiler explosion
• Boilers
• steam clock

=Category:Steam engines

• lots already in this cat - most may be moved to 'types'

==Category:Steam engine manufacturers

===Category:Locomotive manufacturers of the United Kingdom <---add this above! and locate correctly

• Foster, Rastrick and Company - already in cat

===Category:Steam vehicle manufacturers of the United Kingdom <---add this above! and locate correctly (is the name OK?)

• William Foster & Co.

==Category:Steam engine technologies

• Fusible plug
• Firebox (steam engine)
• Economiser - like a feedwater heater, but different mechanism
• Feedwater heater - currently part of Category:Locomotive parts

==Category:Steam engine types

• Populate from existing entries in Category:Steam engines (probably a good place to start the whole process!)

=Category:History of steam technology

• Timeline of steam power
• Steam power during the Industrial Revolution
  • Also see Industrial Revolution#Steam power - good potted history, plus pic of Watt engine
  • - actually very high overlap between the two articles.... ...rationalisation required?

==Category:Pioneers of steam technology

• Oliver Evans - US, same generation as Trevithick, some say invented before T.
• William Samuel Henson - co-inventor of Aerial Steam Carriage
• John Stringfellow - co-inventor of Aerial Steam Carriage
• Arthur Woolf - designer of a compound steam engine
• John Urpeth Rastrick - worked with Trevithick, and on the L&MR; founder of Foster, Rastrick and Company, pioneering steam locomotive manufacturers

=Category:Preserved steam

• NOTE - there is already Category:Industrial archaeology which this perhaps should be a sub-cat of...?
• NOTE - railways are already well categorised, so needn't list many here
• Concentrate on looking for non-railway stuff!
  • NOTE:Category:Steam-powered pumping stations, if created, is a separate top-level cat.
  • Any 'preserved' pumping stations should go in 'Preserved Steam' as well.
    see list of pumping stations at Pumping station
• Bristol Harbour Railway - as part of Bristol Industrial Museum, has several preserved steam tugs and a (dock) steam crane (inc. picture)
• Hollycombe Steam Collection - stub, and not NPOV, neither!
• List of British heritage and private railways - 'LOOK - many more links at bottom of page
• Smethwick engine
• Thinktank, Birmingham
• Tower Bridge - includes a pic of the steam engine
• Walthamstow Pump House Museum - already in Category:Railway museums in the United Kingdom - this is the Lea Valley Experience, the Pump House Museum that is currently closed for refurbishment

• Cornish Mines & Engines – little more than a stub
• Levant Mine & Beam Engine – little more than a stub

==Category:Railway museums

===Category:Railway museums in the United Kingdom

• List of railway museums in the United Kingdom

===Category:Heritage railways

• Heritage railway - can definitely add this one!

====Category:Heritage railways in the United Kingdom

==Category:Steam festivals

• Great Dorset Steam Fair - currently only a stub CAT OK

=Category:Steam machines

• Steam hammer
• Steam organ - redirect link to Calliope (music)
• Steam shovel

=Category:Steam-powered pumping stations

• See discussion under categorising - should create 'Pumping stations' cat instead?
  • Any 'preserved' pumping stations should go in 'Preserved Steam' as well.
  • see list of pumping stations at Pumping station for likely cat members

=Category:Steam vehicles

• Traction engine - and all the variants!
• Steam tractor
• Darby Steam-Digger - this and 2 above - NEW Category:Steam-powered agriculture??
• steam tricycle - actually covers 'any' three-wheeled steam road vehicle
  • Includes a pic of Cugnot's first vehicle
  • Suggest we should have an article covering the development of steam road transport somewhere, to collate all the snippets!
• Steam tank (vehicle)
• fireless locomotive - already under cat 'locomotive', also add here
• Steam bus - currently under Category:Steam automobiles - little more than general history, yet not shown as a stub

==Category:Steam aircraft

• Steam aircraft
• Thermal airship - tenuous, but does mention steam!
• Aerial Steam Carriage
• William Samuel Henson - co-inventor of Aerial Steam Carriage
• John Stringfellow - co-inventor of Aerial Steam Carriage
• Hiram Stevens Maxim - invented (unsuccessful) steam airplane (ie NOT a pioneer) later developed into a fairground ride!!

==Category:Steam automobiles

• Lots here already
• Steam car - includes good history and pic of cugnot's tricycle

==Category:Steam boats

• Steamboat - not yet in this category ('title' page, mentioned on category page)
• steam brig - not yet in ANY category
• Pop-pop boat - not yet in a steamy category
• Steam Tug Wattle - currently under Category:Tugs

===Category:Steamships

• Lots in here already

===Category:Paddle steamers

==Category:Steam locomotives

• Lots in here already

===Category:Steam locomotive technologies

• Firebox (locomotive)

==Category:Steam vehicle manufacturers

=Category:Steam transport

=Category:Steam in fiction

• Steam detectives - Japanese manga series, with a definite steam connection!
• steampunk - literary style similar to cyberpunk, but with steam-era technology!
• The Railway Series - of course!

=Category:Mis-named steam things

• Steam beer - does not use steam in the brewing process!
• Category:Steam products - is something to do with downloads (?) and nothing to do with steam engines!

Ideas for additional Categories:

Move to notes:

• See Timeline of transportation technology - lots missing from here!
• See History of rail transport
• See Timeline of railway history
• See Category:Timeline of rail transport
• See Category:Pioneers of rail transport

[edit] Notes

Vehicle contains a large chunk about Steam Carriages, which is out-of-place, but contains no other vehicles besides Steam tricycle!

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[edit] Project: History of the Traction Engine

• A 'working title'!
• Project space intended to provide repository for links and facts gleaned during other editing.

[edit] Source material

Articles containing pertinent information, which should be generally rationalised into a single article, and then disseminated - with each article highlighting specific pertinent facts...

• steam tricycle
• steam car
• truck
• see article categorising above, also for timelines. Info now belongs here!

[edit] Timelines

• According to Case Corporation (US history):
  • 1842 -- Jerome Increase Case founded J I Case Company to make threshing machines
  • 1869 -- (Case'e) first portable steam engine
  • c1879 -- (Case'e) first self-propelled traction engine
  • c1900 -- Case was most prolific engine manufacturer in North America
  • 1927 -- Case stopped manufacturing steam engines, having produced over 30,000

[edit] Minor Projects

[edit] Traction engine

• Wait a while, then remove 'merge' banners from Steam tractor and Steamroller - DONE (27 Sept 2006)
  • Await fallout from Steam tractor and Steamroller merge banner removal...
• Useful page: [http://www.hollowellsteam.com/glossary.htm a dictionary of terms relating to steam engines (including NHP) and the like - some VERY GOOD source material for the article...
• Also see this 1898 ebook (part of Project Gutenberg) which notes how to calculate NHP: eBook cached

[edit] Steam tractor

• Wait a while, then remove 'merge' banner - DONE (11 Sept 2006)
  • Await fallout from merge banner removal...

[edit] Road roller

• Add 'On film', with a cross-link to Steamroller section, explaining that although most of the rollers appearing in film were NOT steam-powered, most references to the device were 'steamroller', hence all roller appearances in films are covered there
• Add 'In fiction', with appropriate note for Bob The Builder
• Wait a while, then remove 'merge' banner - DONE (27 Sept 2006)
  • Await fallout from merge banner removal...

[edit] Steamroller

[edit] Tasks

• Check all links to Steamroller DONE
  • some may still be drugs-related! DONE
  • only steam roller (redirect page) left to do DONE
  • Obvious drugs links have been dealt with - others may exist DONE
  • What about A Fish Called Wanda - isn't a roller used there too? DONE
• Await developments (and pics from Boots!) before addding further details
• Wait a while, then remove 'merge' banners - DONE (27 Sept 2006)
  • Await fallout from merge banner removal... - there was none!

• New section Influence on English Language (see below)
• Add new link to 'Allo 'Allo! (series 3) - the longer-than-usual episode "Flight of Fancy" - the Germans drive a steamroller over Herr Flicks's car! article also mentions a rally of 'steam engines' (and tractors), hence may need to mention 'On TV' in Traction engine too.

• Investigate group Mannheim Steamroller - appears to be named after something unrelated:
  • "He called his band Mannheim Steamroller, which is the name of an 18th-Century musical technique that we know today as the crescendo." (see [1])
  • See Mannheim school, Mannheim rocket - latter refers to the 'Mannheim roller', but the addition of the word 'steam' is probably a later idea!

[edit] History of road construction techniques

• not obviously covered, but there are snippets here and there:
  • A151 road#The Condition of the turnpike roads, which links to steam roller, also includes this section on how roads were made during the 19th century, including reference to the use of a scarifier. This needs to go somewhere (or be found somewhere) on Wiki! (which we need to link to from steamroller...)
  • Likewise Tarmac#Origins describes the evolution from macadam (which mentions what a roller actually does) to tarmacadam and mentions asphalt (the correct term for which is asphalt concrete, whose article mentions compaction (briefly) but not rollers).
  • Also see Pavement (material)

Have added a comment in Talk:Traction engine to try and bring the Traction engine vs Steamroller dispute to a conclusion (25 Aug 2006) - assumed concluded! (27 Sept 2006)

[edit] Add info:

• Construction detail differences between rollers and Traction engines
  • scarifier DONE
  • See smokebox for a note relating to steamrollers DONE
  • water-filled rollers?,
• Reason for continued colloquial use of term DONE
• Dis-ambig request to separate-out drugs reference! DONE
  • See A151 road#The Condition of the turnpike roads, for a hint at WHY scarifiers were fitted...
• How used - significant omission
• Additional detail and images from Great Dorset Steam Fair
• Post-retirement in playparks (eg Slough and ?(ask DEJ) )
• Special Types:
  • Tapered boiler (eg Wallis & Steevens 'Advance' type)
  • 2-wheel ('tandem')
  • convertible

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Suggested new heading:

(Need to determine etymology of the word before adding this...
See [2] - steam-roller (noun) dates from 1866, while as a verb, dates from 1912)

[edit] Influence on English language

A steam roller working at full speed must have been an awesome sight to the Victorians: the impression of bulk and weight as the bumpy ground submitted to this unstoppable, fiery beast. It is small wonder that the verb 'to steamroller' has entered the English language.

[edit] 'Disambiguation' - what's the meaning of steamroller?

THIS NEEDS RE-WRITING + SIMPLIFYING TO AVOID COPYRIGHT ISSUES
SUGGEST USING THE THESAURUS DEFS AS A BASIS FOR DICTIONARY DEFS...

With assistance from The Free Dictionary, the following definitions apply:

Noun:

1. A steam-driven machine equipped with a heavy roller for smoothing road surfaces.
2. A similar machine with an internal-combustion engine. (see: road roller)
3. A ruthless or irresistible force or power.
4. Pipe for smoking drugs (see: steamroller (pipe))

Verb:

v.tr.

1. To smooth or level (a road) with a steamroller.
2. To overwhelm or suppress ruthlessly; crush.

v.intr.

1. To move or proceed with overwhelming or crushing force.

And from the Thesaurus:

Noun:

1. steamroller - a massive inexorable force that seems to crush everything in its way
2. steamroller - vehicle equipped with heavy wide smooth rollers for compacting roads and pavements

Verb:

1. steamroller - bring to a specified state by overwhelming force or pressure; "The Senator steamrollered the bill to defeat"
2. steamroller - proceed with great force; "The new teacher tends to steamroller"
3. steamroller - crush with a steamroller as if to level; "steamroller the road"
4. steamroller - overwhelm by using great force; "steamroller the opposition"
5. steamroller - make level or flat with a steamroller; "steamroll the roads"

Redirects to steamroller:

• Steam roller
• Steam Roller
• steam-roller

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[edit] References

^[1]

[edit] Non-Project

Nothing to do with a project, this text was extracted from the Culdee Fell Railway talk page before a ream of gibberish from Felix was archived.

I just wanted to keep it to hand cos it was kinda fun!

[edit] CFR Talk page rationalisation?

Hi all project members. Apart from the one major contributor, can anyone see any particular reason why this talk page cannot be rationalised to contain just the pertinent information regarding the 'real' CFR (the section named 'Title', only, I think!)?? The rest makes pretty boring reading. If there are (admin) objections regarding preservation of archives, etc, the text could be moved to the most relevant talk page... Thoughts?

EdJogg 16:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

To be clear, let's remove FelixCheng's mainly irrelevant ramblings? Yes, let's. But the correct procedure is to archive the page. I suggest we archive everything up to the end of this conversation, so we start with a fresh talk page. I'm happy to do that unless there are objections. I'll also drop Felix a note asking him to refrain from posting to this page unless he has substantive comments about the article to make. Gwernol 16:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Ho-hum! I think you've hit the timber fixing on the bonce...

I've always been known as someone who calls a spade a manually-operated soil-turning implement!!

EdJogg 18:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

My personal preponderance is to eschew extrapolatory over-abundance of unnecessary verbiosity and, without circumlocution that would be described (in certain circles at least) at perhaps being less than direct - in other words, slapping or whipping around-abouts the proverbial verdant leafy shrubbery dweller -, to drive, steer or force one's way in the most from-here-to-there manner possible and/or appropriate to the very pin-sharp end-goal of the discourse's logical conclusion. I will go ahead and archive this page shortly. Gwernol 19:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)