Talk:Eikaiwa
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A POV check might be in order for the last part of this article, specifically in reference to the "250,000 yen is hardly enough to get by in a big city" comment. This is total conjecture and bias, no source listed, and certainly many people do 'get by' on a whole lot less than that amount. --Whimper 03:14, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)
- why is the salary included at all? has no place in an encyclopedia article. i'm taking it out Binkymagnus 04:17, 2005 Mar 23 (UTC)
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- If the offending POV portion has been removed, I'm going to remove the POV flag too, cool? --Brad Beattie (talk) 02:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I think it is fair to put the average salary as part of article. While it certainly is a POV as to whether or not you can get by on 250,000 yen per month, the lifestyle you are able to live with this salary back home (US, Canada, Australia, etc) is far better than what you can get in Japan. Knowing what the average salary allows for others to do research on the average cost of living and will give people a better idea of what to expect. HeavyJ 05:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I think that is fair. There is not a lot of balanced information out there on Ekaiwa: the majority is self-promotional company information, while the rest is made up of disgruntled ex-employees. As an alternative it might be better to note that the salary level is the minimum required for the appropriate visa by the Japanese Foreign Ministry[[1]] as reflecting what a Japanese citizen could reasonably expect as a minimum salary from such a job. Given that the Japanese government sponsored JET programme pays substantially more and also subsidises housing (not the case with Eikaiwa), I think there is a good argument that we should include the salary so that people are aware of those conditions.--Shakujo 01:19, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pejorative Statement
Suggesting the the reason why 97% of Eikaiwa instructors leave in their first year is: "a lack of genuine reasons for being in Japan in the first place" is at best pejorative and biased, at worst xenophobic. "Eikaiwa teacher" is not a sub-category of "illegal immigrant". The use of the phrase "genuine reasons" implies that Eikaiwa Instructors are in Japan for some illegal reason.--Shakujo 06:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
