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Contents 1 El Cid or the Cid? 2 WP:MILHIST Assessment 3 Beard 4 Early Life 5 Medieval Castilian 6 Information at Campeador 7 Sid Fernandez 8 Would do you reckon?

[edit] El Cid or the Cid?

this could be fake

The article constantly switches between 'El Cid' and 'the Cid'. In English, 'the Cid' was standard until the entertaining but absurd Charlton Heston epic, and I think I am writing in saying it is still the form preferred those that prefer not to get their history from Hollywood (not NPOV, I know), so any chance of changing the title and using 'the Cid' throughout? Obviously 'El Cid' would redirect to it. (Apologies if I've broken any Wikepedia rules or protocols, I haven't done this before.) John Bryant

A Winner of the August 2004 West Dakota Prize

This entry has won the West Dakota Prize for successfully employing the expression "legend states" in a complete sentence.

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[edit] WP:MILHIST Assessment

Another nice, long, detailed article. Pictures, lots of good sectioning. Could use some expansion on the legend and the appearances in fiction, though. After all, this is where the vast majority of people know El Cid from, no? LordAmeth 05:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beard

One personal feature very stressed in Mío Cid is his beard. One of his epithetes is el de la barba florida. I don't know if that's a personal thing or typical of knights. Incidentally in El Cid (movie), Heston is shaven most of the time. I don't know how to integrate this into the article. --Error 00:29, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Early Life

Can anyone clarify the following sentence?

He had in 1067, fought with Sancho against the Moorish stronghold of Zaragosa (Saragossa), making Zaragoza's Emir al-Muqtadir, a trusted official under Sancho.

Who fought ... against whom ... who was the official ... (I doubt it was al-Muqtadir -- which links to the Caliph of Baghdad of the same name, having nothing to do with Zaragosa at all!) --Ddddan 19:54, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Clearer now? --Error 23:48, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I changed "along" to "alongside". Thanks -- Ddddan 18:19, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Medieval Castilian

I wonder how can you know how medieval Castilian was pronounced. Do you have any recordings? :P --86.139.51.169 03:12, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

like this kinda: cast(as in the broken arm)-ill-E.-in get it now? dejuismaster

[edit] Information at Campeador

There has been a merge tag on Campeador for a long time (nearly a year) proposing a merge to this page. Could anyone comment on the merge, or more generally on the correctness of Campeador as it doesn't sound totally convincing to me. Kcordina ^Talk 14:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

its true as far as i know. it needs merging.

I looked at the rules and stuff, its almost the same article, it really should be merged.

Merge done. Kcordina ^Talk 09:53, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

I think it should be merged, and have the Campeador redirect to that section of the El Cid part of the article. Also, remove the stubs when you merge them please, since its posted above that it's been there for a year.

Ihafez

[edit] Sid Fernandez

Would it be superfluous to add to the article the fact that Sid Fernandez, a former pitcher for the New York Mets baseball team in the 1980s, was regularly referred to in the New York newspapers as El Sid? Misterdoe 18:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Would do you reckon?

I like to add an external link to the 14th century codex that is preserved in the Spanish National Library Online view and short description of this codex is made available via The European Library. Fleurstigter 14:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Today I added it as reference. Greetings, Fleurstigter 10:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)