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[edit] Universal Terms should be used

Minor point, but should clear up the difference between "African American" and "African". People in African nations are not "Americans"! Same difference as "Asian American" and "Asian".

[edit] On the question of merging

I suggest we do NOT merge this article with Race (US Census). They are two distinct categories on the Census, and they deserve different articles.--Citynoise 17:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I also agree they are distinct and should not be merged.--Dark Tichondrias 03:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Given the overwhelming response in favor of merging the articles, I've removed the merge tags from this article and Race (United States Census). ClairSamoht - Help make Wikipedia the most authoritative source of information in the world 22:37, 18 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] I don't understand

Why would be black hispanics in the black category and not whites???

[edit] criticisms of the US census

What about portuguese? They are latinos too.~~Antonoi

The Portuguese and Spanish (spaniards?) from Spain are not "latinos". There are Europeans. "Latino" refers the people of Middle and South America along with the Spanish speaking caribbean countries including Puerto Rico. Exception: French Guyana, Suriname, the former British colonies, the Netherlands Antilles with Aruba, the French Antilles. Example: Angolans are not Latinos eventhough they speak Portuguese. Philipinos are not Latinos, even if most have Spanish heritage and/or names.

[edit] Merge?

I am proposing that the article, Ethnicity (United States Census) be merged into the article, Race (United States Census). The former consists of a few quotes, completely without context, from the 2000 Census. The latter already includes a section on ethnicity with some of the same quotes (this time in some context). I understand that "ethnicity" is a different concept than "race," but the ethnicity article really doesn't say much. The page can have a redirect to Race (United States Census), where the distinction between two concepts is made.--Vbd (talk) 09:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a bad idea. People already confuse these concepts enough as it is. Besides, if it's the present size of the article that bothers you, I don't see why it should. For instance, we don't go around merging stubs into larger, related articles just based on size. In time this article too will grow. If we 'must' merge them, I'd rather see a three-way merger (so to speak) of these two into Racial demographics of the United States, with a name change to "Race and ethnicity in the United States". SamEV 03:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
It's not the size of the article that's bothering me, it is the substance of it, or lack thereof. The article consists primarily of quotes from the 2000 Census, with absolutely no context or explanation offered. At least when the same information was in the Race article (I notice that you recently removed it), it was in some context.
I would be in favor of merging the two and changing the name of the article to "Race and Ethnicity on the United States Census." I'm not sure about the three-way merger; I'll have to take a closer look.--Vbd (talk) 20:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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