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[edit] New Zealand Fraudster Category

Until recently the Alister Taylor article was included in the category of 'New Zealand Fraudsters.' The category reference was removed due to it being unsourced and potentially libellous. Although I appreciate the concerns that may exist regarding including a living person in this category, in the case of Mr. Taylor I believe that it is well warranted. In any case his inclusion in the category is not unsourced, given that in the referenced ABC article the New South Wales Supreme Court determined that "Publisher Alister Taylor had solicited fees from Australians to be included in a publication entitled the Australian Roll of Honour series, which did not exist." and that the New South Wales Minister for Fair Trading, John Hatzistergos was quoted as saying "What this shows is that even those who are best positioned to be able to see through scams such as this, can in fact become victims, and it's important that all people be on their guard so that they're not taken in by such fraudsters." I'm proposing to reinstall Mr. Taylor in the New Zealand Fraudster category unless anyone can show good cause why he doesn't belong there.Far Canal 23:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

This source has one person mentioning him in the context of a "fraudster". Controversial statements about living persons require multiple reliable sources, not a single quote by one person in one newspaper article about one incident. There need to be multiple published reliable sources calling him exactly a "fraudster" in a general context, not just in regard to one or some incidents. This would still be problematic, because even if he had been a fraudster in the past, it is quite possible he is currently engaging in no fraud now. Keep in mind that this is a person still living; it is the difference, for example, between saying "You are an idiot" and "You recently did a stupid thing" (see Fundamental attribution error). Labelling and generalizing is not appropriate for an encyclopedia article. The categories are a navigational aid that use labels for convenience, but the insufficiency and inappropriateness of the labels surfaces when applied to living persons who can be affected by such inaccuracies. (The category would be more appropriate if renamed to "Persons who have been convicted of fraud" or somesuch, though that particular categorization would not apply to this article.) —Centrxtalk • 00:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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