Talk:Ashkelon
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[edit] Name: What is Ashqelon-Ashkelon
How pretentious that Ashkelon is Ashqelon in the English-language Wikipedia, to stroke parochial vanities. Wetman 16:22, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Wha...? Where is this coming from? Isn't Ashqelon the official spelling? It was always my understanding that Ashkelon is a media spelling, much like Rechovot instead of Rehovot, or Eilat instead of Elat, or Hawaii instead of Hawai‘i. Ashqelon is also the closest diacritic-free spelling alternate to the academic Standard Hebrew transliteration, Ašqəlon. What's the matter? Who's stroking whose vanities? - Gilgamesh 01:00, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- There is no "official" spelling, but Ashkelon is the most common.--Josiah 01:02, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
This is what I know. Before recently when I merged Ashkelon and Ashqelon, Ashkelon was about the history of the city (including modern times), and Ashqelon was purely about the Israeli city with a few more specific details on it. It's also been Asqalān in Arabic and Ascalon in Latin. With all the different forms, I thought it proper to unite them under the Standard Hebrew name. - Gilgamesh 02:49, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Also, look at the page history of Ashqelon to see how the article already existed. Since it's the article for the city today, I put Ashkelon's content in the history section then placed a redirect to Ashqelon. And "Ashqelon" is not as uncommon as you may think — there are thousands of Google results for it. There's nothing pretentious about it; it would instead seem to suggest that Ashqelon and Ashkelon are both permissable spellings and neither is necessarily wrong. Also, plenty of other articles for Israeli cities (and Israeli settlements) use Q in the article spelling. See Qiryat Arba. - Gilgamesh 02:55, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
One reason that there was an entry Ashkelon for the ancient city and a separate Ashqelon for the modern one is that the modern city is not historically continuous with the ancient site, nor even exactly on the same ground. (Please click on the link.) "Ashkelon" has been the standard spelling in English print since the 17th century, google-schmoogle. Wetman 01:43, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Alright, I won't dispute it. "Ashkelon" it is. - Gilgamesh 04:23, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Issues regarding using "Canaanite" as a "Hebrew" script
Please see comments regarding this matter at [2] Thank you. IZAK 08:00, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Changes of Hebrew definitions
See discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#New "twist and turn" as "Hebrew alphabet" is switched to "Hebrew languages" concerning appropriate uses of the word "Hebrew" here. IZAK 05:33, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] History
A large chunck of history between Byzantium and the Crusades needs to be filled in. --Yodakii 08:42, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Equaly important, a large chunk of history between 7th Century and 1948 needs to be filled in from the vantage point of its own culture and inhabitants. Al Majdal was not exactly a ghost town unless you consider Arabs or Muslims to be ghosts. It is for this reason that a separate page for AL Majdal is necessary in order to have freedom of thought and justice. This is not intended to be a political argument. I simply don't see how the current page here can survive a transition from a mind-set that is fixated on European events to another that is concerned with local events like any other functional city. It needs to address historical landmarks such as the shrine of Imam Hussein and the fountain of Job (Biblical figure) for example. Users who keep redirecting Al majdal seem to be in denial of the fact that others once inhabited the city for a very long period of time. And that many important historical events took place over there and would need to link to somewhere when the topics are written and cleaned. Thank you for your consideration. HAE
