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[edit] Establishment
I have removed from the article the following:
- The AFP can trace it's origin to an incident in November 1917. Prime Minister Hughes was touring Queensland campaigning for conscription, which was unpopular, especially in Queensland. A egg was thrown at him, which generated a fight, in which the PM was injured. The local police refused to arrest the man who had thrown the egg, and the Premier of Queensland likewise refused, claiming that no state law had been broken. Enraged, Hughes gave orders for the establishment of "peace officers" under Commonwealth jurisdiction. (Reference - A Dictionary of Australian Folklore. Editor; Bill Wannan. Viking O'Neil 1970)
An event, of which I doubt the factuality (even if 'referenced'), that occurred in 1917 is hardly relative to the formation of the Australian Federal Police in 1979. In any case, the AFP, prior to the merging of the APS in 1981, was not responsible for the protection of officials, revealing the irrelevance of this statement.--Cyberjunkie 05:16, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
it has been recently re-added. i am not going to remove it as i don't know the actual story. however, it sounds factually wrong to me. throwing an egg at someone could constitute assault, which would breach "state" law. in any case, the federal constitution makes it clear that states can not ignore federal law (see section 109). i therefore can't see how the creation of an additional police force would have made a difference in that sittuation. in any event, i cannot find a single other reference to the event and note Cyberjunkie's comment that the AFP were only created in the 1970'. Xtra 04:52, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
- I have removed this sentence in the introduction:
"The establishment of the organisation was partly motivated by the Sydney Hilton Bombing the year prior, which revealed the necessity for a national police force." McCulloch (2001) Paramilitary Policing in Australia tells that the establishment of the AFP was well under way before the bombing of the Sydney Hilton, but the Fraser government simply 'sold' its formation as a response to the bombing. stonemaccas 04:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removing the "See Also" section
I propose to remove the entire "See Also" section. I fail to see the relavence to the article. These sort of interconnections should be made through categories or links in the prose. Comments? --Martyman-(talk) 01:10, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- Those links that are directly relevant to the AFP should remain. Xtra 02:45, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Role of APS / AFP-PS
"A branch of the AFP, the AFP Protective Service, is primarily responsible for protecting diplomatic representatives and crucial witnesses, but also:"...
APS have nothing to do with witness protection, and do not protect "diplomatic representatives".
APS's protection role is limited to the protection of buildings.
Sworn police are responsible for both "Witness Protection" and "Close Personal Protection" within the AFP (despite the efforts of certain persons within APS).
This person should really do their home work and if he/she did they would know that the old APS and AFPPS do close personal protection of IPP and not just buildings. The person who wrote this is another pissed off police officer guessing what the AFPPS do. If you don't know ask.
Strongly support the first comments. There's not the slightest interest in what the APS do from sworn AFP officers, you can talk up CTFR (whatever that means) and all that jazz as much as you like. He was just saying it like it was. Sorry, you can dream but sworn AFP officers are responsible for Close Personal Protection duties as well as all the other AFP work that really matters. Yep you read it right, "APS".
This needs to stop. The person who made these comments should be ashamed as this reflects on more than your own need to stroke your ego and feather your insecurity. The APS no longer exists, nor does AFPPS, get over it. This was decided above your pay level so lets make this page reflect a professional body. Everyone is sick of this bigotry.
How about some information on the AFP museum that was burnt down in the canberra bush fires
