Talk:Autumn leaf color
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[edit] foliage
What about moving this article to Foliage?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 22:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Foliage as a noun refers to leaves of a plant in any state, it has no connotations of seasonal change. --Brideshead 22:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
- "Autumn colors" or something might be a better choice, though. I'm sure there is a better potential title than the current one. —Cuiviénen 01:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- The problem I ran into when trying to think of a suitable name for the subject matter is that there is no scientific word for the process by which a leaf changes color that I can find. As the article was mostly about this process and not the colors themselves, "color change in leaves" was the best I could come up with. I was assuming that someone would come along with a better name, or hoping that there was some official name. Here's hoping, heh. --Keitei (talk) 01:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Regionality
[edit] "Pest Alert"
Footnote 2 links to a paper known as "Pest Alert", which is marginally relevant to the first proposition for which it is cited, and irrelevant to the second. Is there no better authority than this? Kablammo 22:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- My attempts are swamped with dozens of state tourism agency. It's buried under the "notices"
- Brilliant fall colors are not a common occurrence throughout the world. In fact, there are really only three regions, North American east of the Rocky Mountains, eastern Asia including central and northern Japan and southwestern Europe, that are known for their fall color changes.
- Circeus 01:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- I saw that too (eventually) and agree that its stands for the first proposition, but it does not for the second (except to the extent that eastern Canada and New England are in that part of North America east of the Rockies). The Midwest also has substantial Maple-Basswood forests which are very colorful. Given the difficulty of getting a good on-line reference maybe we have to wait until someone with a good textbook can provide a better one. Kablammo 02:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Social factors?
_ _ Is it clear whether the fame of New England color reflects objective differences in shade or intensity, as opposed to good PR? Connecticut is overrepresented in film because of the number of rich bastards who commute (for work in one direction or for leisure in the other) between it and NYC. Could the assessment of its fall color reflect the number of leisure seekers within economic and temporal range of New England forests? The decline of agriculture in New England ("chief agricultural product: rocks") may also help make it quaint and otherwise tourist-friendly (covered bridges whose survival often reflects change of traffic patterns); weathered barns; old buildings available for bed and breakfasts) may also be another factor.
_ _ On the other hand, there are physical variables affecting objective quality of color: recent weather, health of trees (ill trees color early) and thus of soil conditions (all those rocks again), and of course selection for species of tree (reflecting long-term climate).
--Jerzy•t 01:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Purpose of leaf loss
_ _ While i've done no research (not even at Deciduous#Botany), no one would have written the current contents of this section who's ever seen the effects of an ice storm or heavy snow storm, prior to leaf fall. (There was a spate of very dramatic examples on one day in the last decade, IIRC, in North Carolina and maybe Virginia. I presume it was intensified by the rarity there of such events, which lets weak trees and branches develop, but survive for years, and then all come down on the same day.)
_ _ I also note the evergreens that have either glossy-looking (i.e., i think, smoother topped) leaves (rhododendron, mountain laurel) or very narrow needles (mostly well under a mm., i think, and under 2 mm. for the broadest), which are likely to shed snow and perhaps freezing rain better than the veiny-topped leaves of many deciduous-tree leaves i am familiar with.
--Jerzy•t 00:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
