Talk:Basilisk: The Kouga Ninja Scrolls
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[edit] Merger
Support -Squilibob 00:55, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Name format
This article features the names of fictional characters, which are presented in western order in other anime articles, but not here. Since it seems to be policy to follow the dub in this case, should this be changed?
In addition, the historical character names listed at the bottom of the page are presented in western order here, but they link to biographical pages which list their name in japanese order. Since these are real characters whose real names are not ordered in western style, should this be changed?
And just for the sake of it, why does Wikipedia even follow the secondary source, the dub of an anime, in preference to the real thing to begin with?
- The article predates the R1 (English) release. Western order should be used now that it is the most common in English-speaking parts of the world, with a note added to that effect. --Meersan 13:38, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) for style guidelines on naming and other issues in articles related to Japanese subjects. --Meersan 13:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, thanks for that. --AvatarZero 23:05, 28 August 2006 (GMT)
[edit] Associating deaths with episodes?
It is a nontrivial aspect of the anime that people die in almost every episode. I think it would be great to include a very small obituary column into the anime episodes list. Unfortunately, that table is created from a template. Is there some way around this? Would creating a second table just listing the episode number, English name, and who died be an acceptable alternative?
Another option would be to introduce a second listing of characters but putting it in order of death and with a brief description of the manner and cause of death. This has the benefit that it applies equally to the anime and the manga. -- Lilwik 09:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bizarre edit in Trivia section. Is this vandalism?
There used to be an entry in the trivia section that looked like this:
- The Funimation English dub of the anime actually uses Japanese honorifics when dubbed.
It is not a great bit of writing, since it redundently tells us that it was dubbed twice, but it is easy enough to see what it means and it is true.
In a recent edit, it was replaced by this:
- The Funimation English sub of the anime uses the original credits written in Japanese honorifics when played.
Is this vandalism? It is replacing a meaningful bit of trivia with something that makes no sense to me as an English sentence. I can only guess that it is trying to say that the credits use honorifics in the subbed version, but that is ridiculous. I have never seen Japanese credits that include honorifics, and I am sure that Basilisk does not include them either. (I am so sure that I haven't bothered to check, so correct me if I am wrong.) I'd just revert this without mentioning anything here, but I tried that before and now it is back.
I want to replace the above with:
- The Funimation English dub of the anime keeps many of the original Japanese honorifics.
I would like to say that it keeps them all, but it is so tempting to drop the honorifics in English and I have no way of knowing if some of them have been dropped. I know that there are many occasions when honorifics are not used in the English dub, but the honorifics might not have been there in the original Japanese.
Unfortunately, if I do make the replacement, I have no reason to expect it to stay there and not be quickly re-vandalized. -- Lilwik 03:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Anime Films?
I've just noticed that this article is in the Anime films category. The Basilisk anime is a series, not a movie, and the Basilisk movie is not anime. It seems to be a mistake to put this article in that category. -- Lilwik 02:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Photographs in Manga?
A recent addition to the article says that the backgrounds in the manga are 90% black & white photographs. I am looking at volume 3 of the manga right now and it is very difficult to determine if this is true by looking. In some places the photographs seem clear, but often the background is obscured enough so that I cannot tell if it was drawn by hand. The number 90% seems much higher than I would have guessed. I think we need to cite some reference for this fact in addition to the manga itself. -- Lilwik 01:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Oboro's Nanny
The entry in this article for Oboro's nanny seems to be largely speculation to me. Oboro's nanny appeared only in episode 16 and as far as I can tell there is no cast listing for her. I cannot find anything to support Naoko Suzuki as the voice actress for Oboro's nanny, so if that is a fact then we should cite a reference for it.
Despite that Oboro's nanny has a different appearance and a different voice, she looks and acts a lot like Akeginu. Akeginu is in the cast list in episode 16 and Oboro's nanny is not. I strongly suspect that Oboro's nanny is actually supposed to be a younger version of Akeginu, portrayed by the same actress but making her voice sound younger. That would explain the lack of a entry in the cast list.
In the article this is explained by guessing that Akeginu and the nanny are relatives, but that is just wild speculation. The article is also guessing that the grave Oboro was visiting belonged to the nanny, but I see no reason to believe that. The grave is shown so briefly that even if I could read Japanese I doubt it is possible to recognize who the grave belongs to, and the nanny was never given a name so even if I could read the grave I could not connect it to the nanny.
If anyone reading this can also read Japanese, please let us know what the grave in episode 16 says, and if it really does belong to Oboro's nanny. -- Lilwik 02:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Shinobi movie
The movie Shinobi seems to be based on this manga/anime maybe it should be mentioned
- I haven't seen it but based upon what I have read it seems to be very different. I think it is more based upon the original novel, The Kouga Ninja Scrolls, and it is mentioned on that page as one of the adaptations, along with the manga and anime. I have been planning on improving that article for a while, since I've got a copy of that book. (The title is a bit odd, isn't it? Even in the novel the Iga won in the end, so why is it the Kouga ninja scrolls?) -- Lilwik 20:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
