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[edit] 2 articles

there seems to be 2 articles on the bastarnae. the other article is spelled "basternae". maybe someone can combine the articles? (i accidentally forgot to sign in before starting this post, then signed in and continued it.)

Fixed!--Wiglaf 06:20, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] celtic or germanic?

The Bastarnae were Celts, not Germanic. The Romans used "German" as a geographical, not ethnic term, and the confusion of the Bastarnae with Germanic tribes dates from that time. See Colin McEvedy, Atlas of Ancient History, p50.

07:19, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Green 2000, Language and History in the Early Germanic World, states that they were East Germanic without mentioning any Celtic or other identifications. Jacob Haller 02:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Slavs on the Danube?

they were among the first Germanic tribes to come into contact with the ancient world and the Slavs

Um, the Slavs were on the Danube in 200BC?? --203.52.130.138 03:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

There is no ambiguity there. The Bastarnae, originated from the land between the Oder and Vistula rivers, crossed the Slavic settled areas of actual Western Ukraine, before settling inside the area of Siret and Prut rivers (central Moldova, actually in eastern Romania). Transsylvanian

This article was way too ambiguous. Esp. the second paragraph. I tried to fix it removing pronounds, adding missing proper nouns and chopping up run on sentences. -David

[edit] Bastarnae and bastards

I vaguely recall reading somewhere (commentary on Tacitus?) that the word 'bastard' came from the name of this tribe, as they did not differentiate between illegitimate and legitimate children for the purpose of inheritance. Is there any truth to this and if so, anyone have a reference?radek 02:51, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

The Bastarnae intermarried extensively with local Dacians and (near the Danube Delta) with the Sarmatians. So, at the time of the arrival of Goths, most of the tribe was either assimilated by local large populations or mixed-blood. So, the theory regarding the word "bastard" could be true. Transsylvanian

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