Talk:Big Dipper
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[edit] Odin's Wain
In Neil Gaiman's American Gods, a character, Zorya Polunochnaya says it is also named Odin's Wain. If someone has a 'better' reference, maybe we should add it to the article. bogdan 20:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Odin, the AllFather of Norse Mythology, was often said to travel around his world in a wagon. Going from house to house and teaching his people his legacy - mainly lessons of hospitality, life, and how to worship the Gods. He often appeared as an old vagabound with a wide-brimmed hat and gray hair that covered the eye-socket.
[edit] Japanese Hokuto
Well, what does Hokuto mean that it is interesting enough for this article? Evertype 22:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- I clarified that portion of Japanese--it means northern dipper, and is a name common to Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc. --ian (talk) 16:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Starry Plough
First, a "thank you" to Dermo69 for adding the info. I have modified the contribution and feel that I should explain why.
- I have moved it up in the article to be with the other national/ethnic entries.
- I changed "big dipper" to "figure" so as not to imply that "big dipper" is the real name.
- I changed the link from "Starry Plough" which leads to a disambiguation page, to "Starry Plough (flag)" which gets directly to the heart of the matter. I also boldfaced it.
- I dropped the links to "republicanism," "socialism," "John Connoly," and the "ICA" as inappropriate for this page. Note that they are all linked from the "Starry Plough (flag)" page.
Thanks again for the addition. B00P 05:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok, that's better.Thanks Dermo69
[edit] Entry Order
Having just reverted the order of entries to "Plough," then "Big Dipper" from what was, and with some justice, called a more logical order, I feel it necessary to explain why.
When I wrote the article, it replaced previous pages on both the Plough and the Big Dipper. As there are more North Americans than Britons, and being one of the former, myself, I naturally picked "Big Dipper" as the title. This being the case, it seemed only right that "Plough" should come first.
- Having done a search on "Plough" and seeing the title "Big Dipper," a reader would feel reassured that he was at the correct article if the boldfaced "Plough" was at the beginning of the article.
- I did not want to leave the impression that "Big Dipper" is the real name, which the British, due to some quaint whim, call "The Plough."
- Historically, "The Plough" is the older name, which is another reason to give it pride of place.
Thus while I appreciate the thought behind changing the order, it seems best to leave it as it was. B00P 01:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- OK then - I thought that the paragraph that dealt directly with the article title should logically come first, but I don't feel any strong impulse to argue. But I was quite attached to my para breaks - British, N European, Modern American - and shouldn't the pre-contact American para be merged with or immediately preceding/following the Modern American? (Interesting that some of the American Aboriginal peoples also called it the Bear, but referring only to the four stars of the "scoop" of the Dipper).
- Hardly worth taking a canopener to the article over this, I know, as long as all the facts are accessible.
[edit] 12 Nov 2006 Revert
There was a recent flurry of changes made to the article. These included improvements, vandalism (and reverts), errors, and others working at cross purposes. As it was impossible to disentagle them, I have reverted to an earlier stage and then restored the valid additions. Voidvector's input was helpful in clarifying the matter. B00P 14:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] the same correct word for the constellation is Major Ursa
so we need for Big Dipper a Redirect on Mayor Ursa 85.8.124.246 13:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
