Talk:Bottom (BDSM)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom_%28BDSM%29 In Japanese bondage, a bottom is referred to as uke, a term from kabuki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom_%28sex%29 In sexually-themed anime and manga, especially shounen-ai and yaoi, a bottom is referred to as uke, a term from martial arts.
The information does not appear to be consistent. Zanaq
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Thank You. I didn't change it because I don't speak japanese. I just noticed the inconsistency.
on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Japanese_bondage someone contributes. About the term uke: this is second-hand, based on reading Usenet -- I believe it is a re-use of the martial arts term -- again, is the authentic, or Western misinterpretation?
This would lead me to believe the term originated from kabuki.
however there seems to be a page on uke that I missed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uke which seems to agree with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aikido Zanaq
- In Japanese bondage, a bottom is referred to as uke, a term from martial arts.
Uke is used mostly in yaoi but seldom in real life. An uke in yaoi may also be tied up, but it is not a bondage term per se. You are more likely to call the sub/bottom M, which is short for masochist.
Uke in yaoi also has neither to do with Kabuki nor martial arts, it's really just a word for receiver. This is why I cut the martial arts part from bottom (sex), and the whole uke reference from this article. -- 62.224.138.18 20:14, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
